Line Help!

Steve S · Post by **Steve S** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:16 pm

Can anyone help me (O.K. my wife say's there's no hope for me). I use Cortland 40lbs. white Micron, found out they aren't making it anymore. What I like about it: 1. It's easy to get a backlash out, so I don't have to put my glasses on. 2. It's white, I throw alot of topwater baits, so if they are looking up it would be harder to see. Downside, it hold's alot of water, so on a cold day and my hands turn to popsicles. Cortland recommended 100 to 130lbs Sprectron White, said this would be about the same diameter as the 40lb Micron. I'm alittle affraid of the super braids. Stuck in the 60's with Old Fart Syndrome Thanks, Steve

hemichemi · Post by **hemichemi** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:54 pm

What are you afraid of, Steve? I've been using SpiderWire Stealth and like it a lot. It's moss green, but SpiderWire just came out with "Ultracast Invisi-Braid" which is more like translucent/white in color.

http://www.spiderwire.com/prod.php?k=74 ... u=SUIB-125

Also Berkley has Fireline Crystal, a similar translucent/colorless superbraid:
http://www.berkley-fishing.com/prod.php ... 4&u=FLFSCY

The Berkley doesn't go as high in breaking strength as SpiderWire, though.

You might try it, since you have little choice!

fishingwidow · Post by **fishingwidow** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:26 am

Scott tried the Berkley crystal and didn't like it. Don't remember why though, so if I get the details, I'll let you know.

Post by **Will Schultz** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:48 am

Steve - The 100# superlines are about the same diameter as the 40# Micron. You will be very happy you made the switch to the 80 or 100# superline. It really doesn't matter which one you pick they're all good but I would stay away from the fused lines like Fireline and stick with the braids. If you want white line (my personal fav/choice) PowePro makes their line in white and I believe cortland offers their in white now too.

finlander · Post by **finlander** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:21 am

Tuff Line holds water line a sponge so avoid it.

Post by **Will Schultz** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:01 am

finlander wrote:Tuff Line holds water line a sponge so avoid it.

I think that depends on which Tuff you choose. The Tuff Plus is good stuff but I would agree that the original Tuff was just like Dacron.

edalz · Post by **edalz** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:17 pm

hemichemi wrote:What are you afraid of, Steve? I've been using SpiderWire Stealth and like it a lot. It's moss green, but SpiderWire just came out with "Ultracast Invisi-Braid" which is more like translucent/white in color.

http://www.spiderwire.com/prod.php?k=74 ... u=SUIB-125

Also Berkley has Fireline Crystal, a similar translucent/colorless superbraid:
http://www.berkley-fishing.com/prod.php ... 4&u=FLFSCY

The Berkley doesn't go as high in breaking strength as SpiderWire, though.

You might try it, since you have little choice!

I just ordered some of the 80LB Invisabraid and should have it next week. If you end up buying some please note there is a $10 rebate if you buy (2) spools and you may want to team up with someone depending on how much you need. I am heading to FL in 2 weeks and will bring one of my Calcutta reels with me loaded up with this invisabraid and I will let you know what I think of it.

http://www.spiderwire.com/media/File/10 ... Coupon.pdf

hemichemi · Post by **hemichemi** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:32 pm

Cool! When you get back, please post again and tell us how you liked it.

Post by **Will Schultz** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:15 pm

hemichemi wrote:Cool! When you get back, please post again and tell us how you liked it.

There shouldn't be a difference between the invisibraid and the ultracast. From my understanding it's just Dyneema without any color added. I'm certain the invisibraid isn't going to make a difference when muskie fishing.

hemichemi · Post by **hemichemi** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:30 pm

You're no fun!

BTW: for all you chemists out there, Dyneema is known in the trade as "UHMWPE" for Ultra High Molecular Weight PolyEthylene.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UHMWPE

It has extremely long chains, with molecular weight numbering in the millions, usually between 2 and 6 million. The longer chain serves to transfer load more effectively to the polymer backbone by strengthening intermolecular interactions. This results in a very tough material, with the highest impact strength of any thermoplastic presently made. It is highly resistant to corrosive chemicals, with exception of oxidizing acids. It has extremely low moisture absorption, has a very low coefficient of friction, is self-lubricating, and is highly resistant to abrasion (15 times more resistant to abrasion than carbon steel). Its coefficient of friction is significantly lower than that of nylon and acetal, and is comparable to that of Teflon, but UHMWPE has better abrasion resistance than Teflon. It is odorless, tasteless, and nontoxic.

Post by **Will Schultz** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:46 pm

hemichemi wrote:You're no fun!

BTW: for all you chemists out there, Dyneema is known in the trade as "UHMWPE" for Ultra High Molecular Weight PolyEthylene.

I know...

Ultra High Molecular Weight PolyEthylene. That is more fun to say than Dyneema.

Pete · Post by **Pete** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:05 pm

My first piece of fishy feedback on the invisibraid - african cichlids love it! I soaked again to get a good look at it underwater, and they chewed the crap out of it. Mmm...delicious dyneema.

Post by **Cyberlunge** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:33 pm

This is the same formula used for synthetic winch lines, at 3/8 diameter the break strength is 19,000 + pounds...

KK

Steve S · Post by **Steve S** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:16 pm

I hope I like the 100lb. white Spectron, order 600yds today. I guess I'll find out this spring with my first backlash.

Steve

hemichemi · Post by **hemichemi** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:17 pm

Steve S wrote:I hope I like the 100lb. white Spectron, order 600yds today. I guess I'll find out this spring with my first backlash.

Steve

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