Here is a picture of the first Weagle I got several years back. It was one of the first years they were made . It is still by far the best top water lure I have. I have since purchased 6 Mojos and have not gotten the same lure as this one. The newer ones ride higher in the water are are on average 7 tenths of an ounce lighter. Here are my weights for three top waters. My old Weagle 4.9 ounces, Mojo Weagle 4.2 ounces, Satisfier 4.5 ounces and slightly thinner in the tail. "><url url="[Permission to view this media is denied]<url url="[Permission to view this media is denied]
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Now I have fished all 6 of the new Mojos and in(my Opinion they do not do the same thing that my original one does.) Thats not to say they dont catch fish. My wife had three explode on a Mojo during our last trip to Murray. But they do not push water like the old one does.
The Satisfier sits lower in water then the Old weagle. Its a little harder to fish as it really forces you to slow down the march. This is due to the slightly thinner body.
I have had more fish hit my old Weagle than any other top water lure I have ever owned. It is truly the best of the best in my opinion. Steve Cady had it right in the beginning.
Now that I have these weights I am going to attempt to add about .4 ounces to one of my Mojo models. I am going to split the weight to keep the balance the same.
My old Weagle is getting beat to death and is minus much of its paint in the tail section. It has survived over 50 strikes and has provided me with some of my best moments fishing for Muskies. I wish that Steve would make another batch of these just like mine. Kingfisher
Not trying to hijack your thread, but………..
I have since purchased 6 Mojos and have not gotten the same lure as this one
So you saying its like the one Bobbie in my tackle box and the 10 that never leave the wall or the 4 suicks that I may fish with in a year because the other 20 are waiting for the price of firewood the skyrocket.
I feel your pain, I'd trade any ten baits I own to get another bobbie that rises like the one hanging in my Lakewood.
with all the discussion going on about the weagle and satisfier i thought i would ask if anyone has tried out Reaction Strike Lures "Homewrecker"? i saw it on musky shop and it says it's as heavy as the original weagles and they even have a 10.25 inch version that weighs 7 ounces. any success from anyone?
joel
"jvkop2" said:
with all the discussion going on about the weagle and satisfier i thought i would ask if anyone has tried out Reaction Strike Lures "Homewrecker"? i saw it on musky shop and it says it's as heavy as the original weagles and they even have a 10.25 inch version that weighs 7 ounces. any success from anyone?joel
Reasons MMA has never pursued Reaction Strike as a sponsor… Theft of an American lure idea made in CHINA, just like most of the Reaction Strike lures.
"Kingfisher" said:
I have had more fish hit my old Weagle than any other top water lure I have ever owned. It is truly the best of the best in my opinion. Steve Cady had it right in the beginning.
I wish that Steve would make another batch of these just like mine. Kingfisher
Yeah right… Cady doesn't own the Weagle so he can't make more. Also, getting Cady to be involved in the muskie world again will likely happen just after the second coming of JC.
To even the weight it might be easier to add some weight to the hooks or larger hooks.
I bought a reaction strike at Ye olde tackle shop in North Webster. Once again its lighter and acts more like a chunk of balsa . The old Weagle I have pushes so much water making that big swoosh.
I am not condemning the Mojo models as they or at least one of the 6 are producing strikes. But all of them ride higher in the water than my old one meaning they fish faster but dont push as much water. With the difference being 7 tenths of an ounce I am looking at nearly a 3/4 ounce sinker difference. That is signifcant. I might be able to make that up in hooks but adding the weight below the lure might affect the action.
I know, I read the stories about Steve and his troubles with the Musky world. His design though was very close to the perfect top Water lure. If I put the tail paint and top coat back on the lure it would be damn near a 5 ounce lure. That is way more weight than a Mojo.
The Satisfier is a close second weight wise to my old Weagle. But there is a problem with them. The tail section is slimmer and this makes it ride deeper in the water than the old Weagle. They push more water but force you to be moving towards the lure as you retrieve it. Otherwise the bait goes sub surface and acts like a glider. The consistancy is wider so I have a couple that are working well and a couple that are more like Wabulls then Weagles. They might get smaller hooks or lose the front hook all together. They could fix the problem by upping the tail diameter by a few thousandths of an inch but then it would be an exact copy of Cadys Weagle.
The Weagle is a great lure. In my opinion one of the best ever made for top water Musky fishing. Ill explore the weighting of a couple Mojos and see if I get the results I am after. If I do Ill share my results. It could just be a small strip of lead tape on the belly or maybe bigger hooks. Ill probably pour .4 ounces of lead in two pockets .2 each another option might be to sand off the paint and repaint adding thicker topcoats like epoxy which add weight as well. I could just add topcoats 
make them tougher and heavier at the same time 🙂 Mike
Thank you Mike for sharing this info. Mike has gotten me into lure making and i dont see the end in sight anytime soon. All this talk of weights of the lures, does it realy matter WHAT the material is of? Basswood, cedar, another hardwood? What really matters is how low it sits in the water…? Anyone know what Steve made his from? Was/ is he still a muskie fisherman, what troubles are you talking of Mike? Thanks again.
After adding three small weights between the belly hooks and a coat of envirotec I moved one of my Mojos from 4.4 up to 4.8 ounces. That is 1/10th of an ounce lighter than my old faithfull. Im going to toss it next trip out. I also took a Cady Weagle that weighed 4.6 ounces and added one coat of Etec. now it is barely 4.7 ounces. So a coat of Etec on a weagle is approximately 1/10th of an ounce. I have put smaller hooks on my satisfiers taking a tenth off of them. They will still have to fished real slow to keep them up on top. Testing this next week. Mike
Mike, I hope that works for you. I wanted to see if there was really a difference in my logs so I just checked… I've caught 24 fish on my Cady Weagles and 22 fish on my Mojo Weagles over the past few years. The Mojo is a more versatile lure and in the right hands, or with instruction as Trevor can attest it will do ecactly what a Cady Weagle does.
My first test results were better than I hoped for. My first test was a pearl white Mojo. It started out at 4.4 ounces. I added three small belly weights and a coat of envirotec. End weight 4.8 ounces. result was very good. The lure went from being a glorified jackpot to a water pushing strike enticer. First ten minutes throwing it I had a big fish slam it but I lost her. It was funny though this lure could have used even more weight as it did not set as low in the water as my old Cady Weagle even after adding 4 tenths of an ounce. It shows that the wood in the Mojo is much more bouyant.
My other Cady Weagle which weighed in at 4.6 ounces got a coat of envirotec raising the weight to 4.7. This lure is perfect. The swoosh is as good as I can imagine. My wife will not let me have it back ha ha ha .
One of the three satisfiers is still to heavy even with hooks that are half as heavy as the original. All three improved but one of the three might as well be turned into a glider as it is almost impossible to keep it on top. I moved a pretty good fish on a blue one with an orange belly.
All in all My tests show me that the lower riding models move more water in big swooshing glides versus high riding models that plop and jump splashing . Both types can and do catch fish. As Will Schultz has pointed out the newer Mojo models when pulled softer on the slack will swoosh pretty good. They just dont fish the( same way )as the old ones did.
My personal preference is related to what has worked for me. My old Cady Weagle has the battle scars to prove it with over 60 hard strikes to its credit. I have been looking for another one that works like it does. I now have three that are very close to working the same way. I can alter any light weagle to get them to move more water but Ill take the original every time.
Ill close this post by saying this, Ill buy all the old Cady Weagles I can get my hands on. They are far better for( my style) of top water fishing. I learned on the old ones so I like them the best. The new Mojo is lighter and has to be worked differently and is very effective used properly(my wife has caught a fish on one). My wife likes hers but wants me to add a little weight to them for her. She likes the modifications I have made to the white one and because she has been outfished top water to top water for 5 years has come to the conclusion that maybe I know what Im talking about. At least in our boat 🙂 Kingfisher
"Kingfisher" said:
My Both types can and do catch fish. As Will Schultz has pointed out the newer Mojo models when snapped hard on the slack will swoosh pretty good.
Kingfisher
Actually… to make a Mojo behave like a original Cady weagle you need to pull the bait not snap it. The old weagle requires a snap and slack to make it death march but the new weagle requires a soft pull then slack to death march. If you snap the Mojo you'll usually get a pop/plop sound, to make it swoosh you need to pull it and not overwork the bait.
One other thing I have learned about this lure is really cool. If Michelle and I are using identical types of Weagles hers does not perform as well, Why? because the boat is opening the distance between her lure and her rod tip. This causes her to have to fish faster and the old style lure goes sub surface on her. For me fishing ahead of the boat the boat is closing the distance between my lure and rod tip. I have much more time inbetween snaps to fish the lure slower. This is why she has had more success with the Mojo than I have. My place in the boat really dictates a lot about how I fish and or approach a spot.
When we were sitting perfectly still Michelle loved the extra weight. But as soon as we started moving along the break she went back to her Mojo. This learning experience has helped us a lot in that we understand better the dynamics of fishing these top water baits. There is nothing more unproductive than fishing the wrong lure for your circumstances. We have decided to carry an equal number of both heavy and light Weagles and other top waters. Boat control really enters into the choice of top water as well. Its hard to fish a Cady weagle when the wind is blowing you down the break. Other lures work better in these situations.
And guys, dont put those top water lures away until ice up. When muskies are shallow the weagle will still take fish even in November as I discovered on Osterhout last year. I had one slurp the lure in 3 feet of water in November. I was working it very slow over small weed clumps in the middle of the afternoon. What an Amazing lure! Kingfisher
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