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Questions for the DNR roundtable at the banquet.
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February 26, 2014 - 1:15 pm
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Want your question answered?

If you have questions specific to the NE, SE or NW part of the state please list them here or if you prefer to remain anon. PM them to me. There will not be biologists present from these areas I've agreed to submit questions to them cc'd to the DNR representatives that will be in attendance the week before so they can discuss the questions and answers.

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February 26, 2014 - 3:09 pm
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To clarify, this is for the panel of DNR folks that will be at the banquet, ya?

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February 26, 2014 - 3:19 pm
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"Jim tenHaaf" said:
To clarify, this is for the panel of DNR folks that will be at the banquet, ya?

Yes, I had that in the subject but edited it out for some reason…

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February 26, 2014 - 5:11 pm
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i love and hate this. i dont like hearing excuses.

1. Why are we allowing 72% of our waters be left unprotected during the spawning season?

2. Why do our lakes that are easily subjected to overharvest not protected with special regulations when there is science based evidence that shows overharvest? Black Lake, Indian River, Lower Chain. These waters rely on natural reproduction only and they are subject to harvest before maturity. Im sure the tag system has helped but these fisheries have such low densities that even a few fish taken makes an impact.
example: one year exploitation rate of 36% but a two year exploitation rate of 18% on elk/skeg. There seems to be a correlation here. extreme overharvest one year and low harvest the next assuming that the study was done in that order. if so its pretty obvious how many fish are in these systems and how much we can afford to lose.

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February 26, 2014 - 5:26 pm
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Just remember, these are going to be questions, not accusations or attacks! 😀

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February 26, 2014 - 5:28 pm
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3. Muskellunge are managed as a trophy fishery. A trophy would be that species maximum growth potential. is 42" the maximum growth potential of the majority of our fisheries? if no than why allow non trophy sized fish to be harvested if our objective is to have a trophy fishery?

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February 26, 2014 - 5:31 pm
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"Jim tenHaaf" said:
Just remember, these are going to be questions, not accusations or attacks! 😀

just throwing out ideas [smilie=biggrin.gif]

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February 26, 2014 - 5:34 pm
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"Why is Michigan the only place in the world where you can legally spear a Muskie?" 😈

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February 26, 2014 - 6:06 pm
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Last year political pressures allowed multiple if not all lake dredging permits to operate inside the standard "no dredging habitat protection windows". These windows in particular are used to protect spawning fish. Do you foresee issues with poor natural reproduction in last year's age classes in lake systems which rely on natural reproduction? If lake levels are still low (hard to believe after this winter) will these windows continue to be ignored jeopardizing two consecutive age classes?

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February 26, 2014 - 6:17 pm
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"treeman" said:
Last year political pressures allowed multiple if not all lake dredging permits to operate inside the standard "no dredging habitat protection windows". These windows in particular are used to protect spawning fish. Do you foresee issues with poor natural reproduction in last year's age classes in lake systems which rely on natural reproduction? If lake levels are still low (hard to believe after this winter) will these windows continue to be ignored jeopardizing two consecutive age classes?

Can you site locations so I know who should get this?

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February 26, 2014 - 6:21 pm
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"Revinchev" said:
[quote="Jim tenHaaf"]Just remember, these are going to be questions, not accusations or attacks! 😀

just throwing out ideas [smilie=biggrin.gif]

Write them however you want on here, I will rewrite if needed. I didn't see anything wrong with what you wrote. Trust me, the DNR people attending will be ready for hardball.

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February 26, 2014 - 6:23 pm
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Negative. I guess I'm asking if the are particular areas of concern possibly due to extensive dredging? Also, just trying to get in a voice for the fishing community before the permits and money start flying.

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February 26, 2014 - 6:32 pm
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"treeman" said:
Negative. I guess I'm asking if the are particular areas of concern possibly due to extensive dredging? Also, just trying to get in a voice for the fishing community before the permits and money start flying.

Got it.

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February 26, 2014 - 7:42 pm
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muskellunge are highly vulnerable to exploitation while they are spawning. if open season isnt changed can gear restrictions be implemented where concentrations of fish gather to spawn and certain gear could be too efficient and lead to overharvest? no live bait

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February 28, 2014 - 8:40 am
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"Mayhem" said:
"Why is Michigan the only place in the world where you can legally spear a Muskie?" 😈

Can I second this one please? I would really like to hear a legitimate answer to this question.

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February 28, 2014 - 9:07 am
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"Mayhem" said:
"Why is Michigan the only place in the world where you can legally spear a Muskie?" 😈

My Question x2!

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February 28, 2014 - 11:08 am
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This is closed now, I need to give them enough time to review and respond.

I submitted the following questions to those unable to attend:

1. Why are the waters of the Antrim chain and the Inland waterway unprotected during the spawning season?
Related: Why are areas where muskellunge spawn not protected during spawning? This would be specific to river situations (Black and Torch particularly).

2. Why have special regulations not been placed on waters where over harvest has been documented? The one/season with tag is a statewide regulation but will have little impact on waters where 10 fish harvested would be an exploitation rate of 20-50%

3. Why is Michigan the only state or province that allows spearing for muskellunge? There are numerous reports each season of undersize harvest by mistake, due to misidentification, or because the length wasn't able to be accurately estimated. Despite the new regulation this method of harvest is and should be a serious concern because it it 100% mortality, undersize fish can't be released.

4. Is dredging during "habitat protection windows", that has happened recently, a cause for concern in waters that rely on natural reproduction (all species)?

5. With so many new waters being stocked with GLMUS and the hope that many of these waters can rely on natural reproduction eventually, shouldn't these waters be closed to all methods of harvest until the populations can establish themselves?

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