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August 25, 2009 - 3:52 pm
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BULLYING THE BULLIES WITH SHEER SIZE

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Storm® beats its chest over the new ThunderBeast™
MINNETONKA, Minn. (July 14, 2009) – Step aside small fries, big lure coming through in the form of Storm's® new ThunderBeast™. Big lures catch big fish. Anglers will need to wear a back brace and dig their feet in; its time to reel in the Beast.

The ThunderBeast was designed with big-fish-triggering characteristics. Its monster size doesn't take away from its nimbleness. Fish it in a variety of ways to wake lurking giants.

"Bring the ThunderBeast in on a straight retrieve and the tail moves with a wide arc, producing lots of vibration," describes James Lindner, National Freshwater Fishing Hall of Famer. "Pause in on retrieve, and the lure sinks slowly, just asking to be attacked. Bring it back up with a jerking motion and it generates a smooth gliding action with some body roll."

King Kong now resides in the water in the form of the ThunderBeast. This lure is heavy-duty and tear resistant; made with through wire construction and an integrated hard core insert. It's fit to withstand strike after strike, leaving muskies wanting more.

This agile lure comes in two bombastic sizes: 9 inches weighing 4 ¾ ounces and 12 inches weighing 12 ounces. Not only does the ThunderBeast call the big boys in, but the dual Premium VMC® treble hooks sizes 4/0 and 7/0 will hook and hold the wildest of giants.

"The ThunderBeast is huge," exclaimed Lindner. "The construction is superior, and it needs to be, when everything that strikes it is bigger than an infant elephant."

The ThunderBeast's nine enticing color patterns, combined with its rage inducing retrieve, will have big fish steaming in for the kill. Don't sweat the small stuff a new bully has moved to the block.

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August 25, 2009 - 6:23 pm
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interesting, when it said u need a back brace i was thinkin it was gonna be a 2 lber, looks like it could be something to try out, have u tested it will.?

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August 26, 2009 - 12:43 am
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Looks pretty nice. Wish the tail was a bit longer and the eye would be a bit more forward and not on the top of the bait but it will definitely catch some fish.
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August 26, 2009 - 9:46 am
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I wonder for less weed problems if the dangling hooks can be beheld up with small rubber bands around the lure without detracting from the lure action?

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August 26, 2009 - 11:47 am
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Hmmmm. Looks remarkably similar to a Hardhead, IMHO, only you can't replace the tail?

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August 26, 2009 - 12:31 pm
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"Steve Horton" said:
Hmmmm. Looks remarkably similar to a Hardhead, IMHO, only you can't replace the tail?

I'm not so sure about that… I think this design is the same one Storm has been using for a while w/ a hard plastic covered by plastisol. I haven't seen one up close but from the look and description that's my assumption.

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August 26, 2009 - 2:40 pm
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For the price I'll stick to dawgs since I don't know how buying this would add to my tool box. I have a question for those that have used the Hardhead by H2O since it was mentioned in this thread. I bought one to try it out based some great reviews from other sites. My problem with it is I continued to get the leader tangled in the hooks-I tried fluoro, 7 strand, & even no leader just to see why it tangled so much. I worked it very similiar to how I work dawgs but it tangled over 50% of the time. I'm beginning to think perhaps the hooks are too long. I rarely get the dreaded dawg ball when casting bulldawgs. Any advise and sorry if I highjacked this thread. Thanks for the feedback.

Rob

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August 26, 2009 - 2:53 pm
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"robhj" said:
For the price I'll stick to dawgs since I don't know how buying this would add to my tool box. I have a question for those that have used the Hardhead by H2O since it was mentioned in this thread. I bought one to try it out based some great reviews from other sites. My problem with it is I continued to get the leader tangled in the hooks-I tried fluoro, 7 strand, & even no leader just to see why it tangled so much. I worked it very similiar to how I work dawgs but it tangled over 50% of the time. I'm beginning to think perhaps the hooks are too long. I rarely get the dreaded dawg ball when casting bulldawgs. Any advise and sorry if I highjacked this thread. Thanks for the feedback.

Rob

Are you fishing it with weight on it or w/o added weight? I'm assuming it tangles during mid retrieve. I'm guessing it glides over the leader where a dawg will usually glide under the leader. You'll either need to take up the slack faster or change your retrieve. What I've found with the HH is that it isn't a replacement for how where I fish a dawg but a unique lure of it's own that requires some different techniques.

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August 27, 2009 - 7:35 am
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Rob

Almost all jerkbait style lures get the front hooks tangled occasionally but it shouldn't be happening on the cast. Is it the large version of the Hardhead? Thats the only one I use so I can't be of much help on the smaller ones but its probably the way you are casting it if it happens on the cast. The cast should be a lob, similar to dawgs, and you straighten out the bait on the end of the cast. I only get the hook hung on the leader when I really try to rip it next to the boat which can trigger fish but the best trigger is to not figure 8 the bait but to glide it in next to the boat, let it drop just out of sight then pull it up sharply. Have you tried just a split ring connection with no snap? I use a 300lb. stay lock and solid leader and have very few front hook hangups. Will, I catch what your saying but my main point was that the tail isn't replaceable, as with the HH it is……a major advantage over the Dawgs. I have't given up on the Dawgs because they appear to be good baits, they just don't see as much water time as my Hardheads.

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August 27, 2009 - 10:34 am
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the tails on dawgs are replaceable? i bought several replaceable tails for my superds etc..

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August 27, 2009 - 10:35 am
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I think Steve meant interchangeable.

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August 27, 2009 - 10:56 am
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Not really. I meant replaceable. How do you replace the tails on SuperD's……superglue or heat? I've found this to be a pain, at least for me. Then, by that time, the rest of the bait is all ripped up anyway. With the HH's, the tails are actually Kalin's Big'N Grubs. They are readily available. You can mix and match colors that way too, if you like. Bottom line, for me anyway, is that the Hardheads have caught more fish (relative to time in the water), don't dogball, rarely tangle, and a guy can replace the tail or change the color of the tail in seconds, and you can weight the bait in two different places. ONE bait can be fished like a topwater with no weight, by turning the tail up and keeping the rod tip high, or can be fished as a jerk/pull bait 12 feet down by adding both weights and turning the tail down, then counting the bait down OR anywhere in between. Once its there its there. Besides that, the fish absolutely hammer them on the pause like I've never seen with any other bait. Hooking percentage for me so far is 100%. That includes the bonus pike, bass and walleye that seem to love it too. Very versatile bait.

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August 27, 2009 - 11:25 am
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August 27, 2009 - 3:51 pm
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Hey guys,

Thanks for the replies. I actually used it last week for about 20 casts and I would guess that on 15 of those the HH got tangled. I didn't have the patience to try working it differently than I would a dawg, but definitely will be throwing it again. I started off trying the bait without weight & then experimented with different weight modifications but nothing really helped alleviate the bait getting tangled. I'm sure it didn't help that I was using a fluorcarbon leader & was also ripping the bait the same way I usually fish the dawgs. I will change the leader & try different retrieves to experiment with the bait because it will definitely continue to have a place in my box once I figure out the best way to use it. Thanks again for the feedback.

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August 28, 2009 - 9:55 am
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Has anyone had success replacing tails on Magnum Bulldawgs? I think Will's post above is about replacing curly sue tails, but I'm not sure. I have a number of Bulldawgs sidelined only because of tails coming off.

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August 28, 2009 - 10:52 am
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Has anyone had success replacing tails on Magnum Bulldawgs? I think Will's post above is about replacing curly sue tails, but I'm not sure. I have a number of Bulldawgs sidelined only because of tails coming off.

Mike – Those tails will work on anything, I use them on dawgs all the time (I don't own and curly sues).

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August 28, 2009 - 12:09 pm
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FYI, i dont know how many of you quit using dawgs or superd's cause their tails rip off, but i had more action in one day with one that had no tail, sometimes i dont think it matters at all.

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September 6, 2009 - 12:03 pm
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Over the last couple of years, the bulldawg has become my favorite bait. I can relate to the frustration of bulldawgs and super d's regarding the tail. I have had the tail tear off on the first cast before (I am sure it was a fluke, but no less frustrating). However, with that being said, my last two muskies have been caught on a pounder (I'll probably never buy another mag) with hardly any tail. The body of the bait had been repaired a few times.

I given up on glue and use propane with a torch instead. The dawg reseals in seconds almost like new. For deep cuts, I heat up a piece of metal and insert into the area of concern and the lure will practically fix itself.

As for the tails, they are easy to replace (not necessarily while on the water) after you get home. I have had much more success laying them on the cement and melting the lure to the new tail. Good idea to have bucket of water handy. Because I like to lay the lure flat while I fix the tails is why I don't bother with fixing tails on the water. I just pull out a different Dawg or Super D

With all that being said, I have three questions.

What are your preferences and why when it comes to the Bulldawgs vs. the Super D, other than price? I ask because I am about to buy some more and I am wavering between the two.

Do you prefer to fish them with single stand wire, if so how long of wire, or do you use a florocarbon leader. I have used both, but am leaning to wire overall.

When it comes to throwing punders, I have found my Gander mountain rod to be the best option I currently own. I am looking to purchase a rod specifially for throwing pounders. Any suggestons?

Thanks

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September 6, 2009 - 12:29 pm
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Musky innovations Bulldawg rods for pounders

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September 6, 2009 - 4:12 pm
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Mark,

I use an old pen-type soldering iron to repair my plastic baits. I've been very satisfied with that so far. Someday I'll get a propane- or battery-operated soldering iron to make repairs out on the water.

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