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May 22, 2012 - 8:36 pm
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You may remember that we paid to have Matt Hughes from the Wolf Lake hatchery attend a conference in Wisconsin this past winter. Well, it has paid off BIGTIME. The major takeaway was the use of an extender in the milt during the manual spawning process. Here is some data from a couple of the fish spawned so far this spring:
FEMALE #1
Traditional spawning method-2.5% fertility
Spawned with milt extender-51.5% fertility

FEMALE #2
Traditional spawning method-6.4% fertility
Spawned with milt extender-75.8% fertility

Incredible results!!!

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May 22, 2012 - 8:38 pm
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Awesome! !!!

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May 22, 2012 - 8:41 pm
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Thats an amazing difference! Will, do you have any additional info on how the egg take has been going that you can share? Just wondering if they are having more success finding ripe fish this year.

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May 23, 2012 - 9:14 am
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What is milt extender? A chemical or nutritional source to nourish the sperm cells?
Super results and a heck of a difference in fish rearing!

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May 23, 2012 - 12:11 pm
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yea that is a huge difference. Pretty crazy

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May 23, 2012 - 4:08 pm
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$ well spent I'd say! [smilie=applause.gif]

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May 23, 2012 - 4:25 pm
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Thats awesome news, good to see it paying off so huge already.

"Mayhem" said:
Will, do you have any additional info on how the egg take has been going that you can share? Just wondering if they are having more success finding ripe fish this year.

I've been wondering about this as well if anyone has any answers…

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May 24, 2012 - 9:58 am
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"Larry Porter" said:
What is milt extender? A chemical or nutritional source to nourish the sperm cells?
Super results and a heck of a difference in fish rearing!

The milt extenders can be a mixture of chemical and bio product. The goal is to increase the motility of the sperm and therefore fertilization.

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May 24, 2012 - 10:04 am
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"Mayhem" said:
Thats an amazing difference! Will, do you have any additional info on how the egg take has been going that you can share? Just wondering if they are having more success finding ripe fish this year.

Last night should have wrapped up the egg take for 2012. They have consistently been catching 20-30 fish per night (mostly males) and before last night they had captured 17 ripe females. The change in capture tactics that saved last year has made all the difference.

Considering that all production from 2011 was from just a few fish, the program looks to be in pretty good shape this year.

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May 24, 2012 - 10:07 am
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May 24, 2012 - 1:10 pm
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Bravo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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May 24, 2012 - 1:21 pm
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May 24, 2012 - 1:25 pm
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Correction

I assumed and we all know what happens when you ASSume.

The extender they're using isn't what would normally be considered an "extender" as would be used when processing sperm for freezing. This extender increases the pH causing the sperm to be inactive. The eggs and milt are then thoroughly mixed without fertilization. Then hatchery water is added to the now mixed eggs and milt which lowers the pH and the sperm becomes active again and fertilization occurs.

Overall fertilization rate with all females and no extender was 26%, overall fertilization with extender was 76%.

1.145 million eggs were collected this spring.

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May 24, 2012 - 1:32 pm
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Great info, good stuff. Yes, money well spent!

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May 24, 2012 - 2:40 pm
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"Will Schultz" said:
Correction

I assumed and we all know what happens when you ASSume.

The extender they're using isn't what would normally be considered an "extender" as would be used when processing sperm for freezing. This extender increases the pH causing the sperm to be inactive. The eggs and milt are then thoroughly mixed without fertilization. Then hatchery water is added to the now mixed eggs and milt which lowers the pH and the sperm becomes active again and fertilization occurs.

Overall fertilization rate with all females and no extender was 26%, overall fertilization with extender was 76%.

1.145 million eggs were collected this spring.

Even 50 % of that is a lot of freaking fingerlings . I will guess they cant come close to raising that many. I will also hope they stock the excess fry and spread them around. Can they send some up to other hatcheries? Mike

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May 24, 2012 - 2:49 pm
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Don't we have some sort of agreement to send Wisconson fish this year? If so what, if anything, are we getting in return?

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May 24, 2012 - 3:09 pm
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"Kingfisher" said:

Even 50 % of that is a lot of freaking fingerlings . I will guess they cant come close to raising that many. I will also hope they stock the excess fry and spread them around. Can they send some up to other hatcheries? Mike

Yes, that is a lot of eggs but that was the previous goal with Thornapple and resulted in 25-30 thousand fall fingerlings when everything went well. These fish did much better indoors than the Thornapple fish and if the hatchery is as successful as 2011 there will likely be fry and/or spring fingerling distribution. No, they will not be sent to other hatcheries there isn't another facility able to accept them. Some areas could be pretty successful with fry planting if it gets to that point. It would be better to see them grown to at least 4-5" before stocking. This talk is really counting our eggs before they're hatched (pun intended) as there are so many things that can go wrong with the little critters.

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Don't we have some sort of agreement to send Wisconson fish this year? If so what, if anything, are we getting in return?

Yes, Wisconsin will get up to 3000 4-5" spring fingerlings. I believe Wisconsin sent people over to work Anchor Bay nets for a couple weeks like they did last year. If that wasn't the case there will be some type of trade off eventually.

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May 24, 2012 - 3:27 pm
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All in all everything really looks good for the future. Kudos to all involved. 😀

Now who is the fish biologist for Muskegon County. It is time to plant Big Blue lake with Muskies to start eating those dinky pike. If its Rich Oneil Ill be writing him with the request. This lake would make a great Musky lake. Mike

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May 24, 2012 - 3:57 pm
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This is some real exciting news. Thanks for the updates Will.

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