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Michigan DNR prepares to make significant cuts!
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October 23, 2007 - 11:18 pm
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This is a DNR-All message.
As you know, our continuation budget expires November 1. We continue to work with the legislature and the administration to find a funding solution for our 2008 Department budget. Part of our budget solution was built around the passage of hunting and fishing license fee increases. In meetings that NRC Chair Keith Charters and I have had with the legislative leadership, it is clear that there is little support for passing those fees at this time. Without that revenue or other funding sources, we are looking at deficits in not only game and fish programs but also in other activities across the Department.

In order to be prepared to address those deficits, I have started the process to make significant program cuts beginning as early as November 1, 2007. Attached you will find a document that outlines programs that will be affected. This document will be shared with the Legislature and will be made public, so if you receive media calls, please direct them to Mary Dettloff at 517-335-3014.

While we seek a resolution, we must be prepared for the worst. If we do need to lay off employees, we will be looking at any and all opportunities to place those employees in other funded vacancies, and will continue to explore additional cost savings and program efficiencies.

I again want to stress that we are still working toward a funding solution that will abate the need to implement these cuts. As difficult as it is, I ask that we all stay focused on our jobs and safety during this very difficult time.

Great Lakes, Great Times, Great Outdoors

DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES FUNDING CRISIS

General Fund reductions and depletion of several of our major restricted funds (Game and Fish Protection Fund, Forest Development Fund and Park Improvement Fund) will require additional and more severe budgetary measures than have been implemented to date.

Since Fiscal Year 2005, DNR has reduced its programs by more than $20 million. These reductions were much more extensive than the list below, but to give you a few highlights, the cutbacks included:
significant reduction of conservation officers with more than 50 vacant conservation officer positions, resulting in reduced effort in public safety and protecting natural resources, delays in responding to complaints, and little or no officer presence in certain areas of the state a 60 percent decrease in production and planting of hatchery Coho for Lake Michigan, resulting in a negative impact on sportfishing and the charter boat industry fewer wildlife population surveys and reduced bovine TB and CWD monitoring, compromising the Department’s ability to manage wildlife populations and monitor for diseases, which increases the risk for a disease to become established and endanger wildlife populations fewer fire officers and reduction in fire equipment replacement, jeopardizing wildfire protection a decrease in timber marking as a result of not filling vacant positions and decreased disease monitoring compromising the health of our forests decreased staffing and maintenance of facilities in our state parks and recreation areas and eliminating all non-emergency trail repairs Without the prospect of license fee adjustments to offset structural deficits in the Game and Fish Protection Fund projected at $2.5 million in Fiscal Year 2008 and $13 million in fiscal year 2009, or finding resolution to address additional deficits in the Forest Development and Park Improvement Funds, drastic reductions to programs and staff will occur. Listed below are the additional program cuts, by fund, that will be implemented beginning November 1, 2007.

General Fund

Reduction of $1.05 million
Reduction of 12 staff

The Department will implement the following reductions:
Closure of state forest campgrounds, pathways, cross country ski trails
This reduction will increase the number of closed state forest campgrounds from 20 to 22 and elimination of all pathways. These closures will result in a significant decrease in recreational opportunities which will impact local economies that depend on the tourism generated through these activities.

Reduce disease surveillance for bovine tuberculosis
This reduction would result in the loss of the TB accreditation level currently awarded the state. This will have a significant impact on the cattle industry. Monitoring for chronic wasting disease, avian influenza, West Nile, etc. will be greatly reduced increasing the health risks for wildlife and humans.
Elimination of general conservation law enforcement by conservation officers
Conservation officers will not be allowed to address general conservation law violations which will degrade public lands such as game areas, state forests, state parks, etc.

Game and Fish Protection Fund
Reduction of $6.2 million
Reduction of 58 staff
Close 2 fish hatcheries
Loss of 1.2 M coho, 1.9 M Chinook salmon, 845,000 brown trout, and 485,000 rainbow trout. The economic impact of these reductions will be monumental as fishing boosts the state’s economy by $2 billion annually.
Eliminate remaining fish surveys (creel clerks)
Angler harvest data will not be collected and is therefore not available to use to assist in the management of the state’s fisheries resources. This will also eliminate the ability to evaluate ports across the state for compliance with the 2000 Tribal Consent Decree.
Close research station
Eliminate the ability to evaluate and make management recommendations on inland coldwater fisheries including trout rivers streams and lakes negatively affecting fishing opportunities.
Eliminate university research and reduce fish health activities
Opportunities will be lost to respond to current disease issues.
Eliminate use of Great Lakes research vessels
Twenty five years of continuous data collection on harvest mortality and fish health would end compromising our ability to adjust harvest regulations and hatchery stocking programs.
Reduce conservation officers
This will result in increased illegal activity such as poaching, increased accidents and injuries due to violations of hunter safety regulations and reckless operations of ORV, boats, snowmobiles, etc. Remaining conservation officers will be at greater risk due to the lack of backup, increased response time, etc.
Reduction in emergency dispatch for conservation law violations
Emergency dispatch will not be available from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m.
Closure of managed waterfowl areas
Loss of over 28,300 acres of hunting areas. This equates to 300 days of lost hunting opportunity. Hunting alone annually brings in $1.3 billion to Michigan’s economy.
Translocation of nuisance animals
Nuisance bear and geese will no longer be moved. Over 6,000 geese have been removed in Southeast Michigan resulting in greater wildlife-human conflict and disease concerns.
Office closures and elimination of presence in field offices
Forest Development Fund

Reduction of $1 million
Reduction of 9 staff

Additional reductions are necessary if $1 million is transferred to the Michigan Department of Agriculture for conservation districts. As these reductions are implemented and affect future revenue, the need for further reductions will compound. Fiscal Year 2008 reductions will be as follows:
Reduction in timber marking, regeneration, planning
This will negatively impact the amount of timber that is marked, regenerations efforts, oil and gas reviews, use permits and leases, recreation, planning, forest certification and fire response, which will negatively affect tourism and a $13 billion timber industry in the state.
Elimination of natural features inventory reviews
Loss of forest certification will likely negatively impact the state’s ability to sell timber reducing state revenues.
Park Improvement Fund

Reduction of 253 staff

Infrastructure conditions continue to deteriorate. To address the structural deficit in the Park Improvement Fund, the Department will cease taking reservations in April 2008 for at least 37 state parks, which will close during Fiscal Year 2009. Reductions will be implemented in Fiscal Year 2009 as follows:
Closure of at least 37 state parks and recreation areas and scenic sites
This reduction will affect millions of visitors annually, eliminating many opportunities for our customers to experience the outdoors through either day use or overnight stays. These closures will also negatively affect local communities who depend on the economic stimulus provided by the state parks. Visitors to our state parks contribute more than $580 million annually to Michigan.
Closure of 8 interpretative centers
Closure of the interpretative centers will result in the loss of a critical educational opportunity to inform the public about conservation practices, stewardship, and natural resources management

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October 24, 2007 - 8:45 am
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This is really a shame…. You know once programs like this are cut, it will be forever (if ever) before funds will be reallocated to re-instate them. Michigan's tourism is largely based on the outdoor resource. I think we can all understand times are tough, and there may be a need to cut in certain places, but it seems like the DNR is an easy stop for our govenrment. What about re-allocation of funds to areas managed by the DNR that generate moneys? What areas under the DNR's management actually generate a positive cash flow? Maybe shifting funds to the moneymaking portions of the "business" to actually increase revenue? What percentage of the DNR spending i made up from funds they generate vs. what is allocated from the states budget/funds? How much do licenses, park entrance fees, camping fees, etc. generate? Does all of that go back into the DNR's piggy bank?

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October 24, 2007 - 2:50 pm
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Part of our budget solution was built around the passage of hunting and fishing license fee increases. In meetings that NRC Chair Keith Charters and I have had with the legislative leadership, it is clear that there is little support for passing those fees at this time.

This is what I really have a problem with! We, the sportsmen of Michigan, support the license increases and yet the legislative leadership is holding this up because they don't want to be the person(s) responsible for increasing license costs. I still don't understand why we tolerate/allow our legislators to make these decisions. The DNR should have complete authority to adjust license costs as needed.

Time to contact your legislator and TELL THEM they need to help push this increase through or they will positively NOT have your vote next time they run for office.

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October 24, 2007 - 2:52 pm
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Just a reminder…

[size=200]In five years … you'll be blown away.[/size]

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October 24, 2007 - 6:23 pm
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This is what I really have a problem with! We, the sportsmen of Michigan, support the license increases and yet the legislative leadership is holding this up because they don't want to be the person(s) responsible for increasing license costs.

You couldn't be more correct.
I am pretty tight with two of my local legislators one state Rep., the other a state senator (one's a cousin and the other a friend since high school) I have actually talked to both about the license increase, both did mention the reluctance of "being the person responsible for raising fees", but neither has had people contacting them with any support of the increase either. When the fee increase was purposed, the Traverse City area council for the aging put together a meeting in which DNR representatives were bombarded by complaints from the crowd for two hours, and I can guarantee that these people would be the ones calling their representatives

We as sportsmen/women need to contact or reps. and let them know that we understand and back a license increase. If we sit back and do nothing then we can only blame ourselves for the outcome!

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October 24, 2007 - 9:39 pm
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Well , there we have it. We took her hand out of the cookie jar by a unamious vote of people. So in turn the Democrat majority burns down the D.N.R. No word of social programs being cut just more of the same B.S. that I have come to expect from this administration. Michigan better wake up. Kingfisher

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October 24, 2007 - 10:14 pm
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This is not a party line issue again fellas. There a morons on both side that don't ever want to raise any taxes or fee's. I know some Repub reps that want no part for the same reasons stated. They don't want any part becasue the "public" will think its another tax. What BullSh-t!

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October 25, 2007 - 9:47 am
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Right! It's easy to play "the blame game" against Repubs or Democrats but the focus needs to be "what is in the best interest for Michigan's environment. It is simply absurd to reduce DNR spending while at the same time tossing millions out the window on other much less important issues. Tourism dollars are extremely important to the state and fisheries is a big part of this. More importantly though, and you can't put a dollar value on this, is the great opportunities that Michigans land and waters have to offer. Camping, fishing, hunting, hiking, biking, etc. are all enjoyed by millions every year.

It is beyond me that our legislators can not see the "real" value of this and allocate more funds , even it it means re-allocation of funds. Raising license fees is a small part of the solution and I'm all for it but you really have to change the way the decision makers think on these matters.

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October 25, 2007 - 10:49 am
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Sad days are coming. If you look at what monies are spent in Michigan when it deals with our fisheries, it would seem to be crystal clear where NOT to trim. Guess not. A couple of trips ago to Murray I was stopped by a sheriff deputy on a pwc and I was thinking I had better get out my license to show him. He never asked for it. This summer tthough uncle and I were asked to show our licenses to a DNR agent 3 miles out in Lake Michigan. That has never happened to either of us. Maybe I wont need a license next year……. [smilie=2c.gif]

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October 25, 2007 - 10:54 am
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Tim the state of Michigan makes about 14.7 B a year in Tourism. Thats what the Gov. told the people at the U.P. State fair.

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October 25, 2007 - 11:01 am
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1) "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

A. Karl Marx
B. Adolph Hitler
C. Joseph Stalin
D. None of the above

2) "It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few…and to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity."

A. Lenin
B. Mussolini
C. Idi Amin
D. None of the Above

3) "(We)…can't just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people."

A. Nikita Khrushev
B. Jose f Goebbels
C. Boris Yeltsin
D. None of the above

4) "We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own…in order to create this common ground."

A. Mao Tse Dung
B. Hugo Chavez
C. Kim Jong Il
D. None of the above

5) "I certainly think the free-market has failed."

A. Karl Marx
B. Lenin
C. Molotov
D. None of the above

6) "I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched."

A. Pinochet
B. Milosevic
C. Saddam Hussein
D. None of the above

Answers:

(1) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/29/2004
(2) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 5/29/2007
(3) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007
(4) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007
(5) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007
(6) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 9/2/2005

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October 25, 2007 - 12:11 pm
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No Blame???? There have been no cuts to speak of in her social programs and handouts. She was pulling money out of the DNR just like Engler and Blanchard did. We said no with a vote last year. Now they cut MOST OF the general funding for the D.N.R. in retaliation to this vote. They will have thier social programs at any cost. These Idiots dont believe in any type of trickle down economics. We all know this is going to drive our tax base down even further by hurting the income sources we so desperatly need. And here we are 6 years later and Grandholm still blames Engler. She is funding education for 90,000 jobless people while my daughter in law is working three jobs putting her self through nursing school. We dont need more hand outs and Government control. We need the Government to get the hell out of our way so we can move forward. Grandholm will not budge on these issues. Social programs stay and Tourism gets whacked. As the tax revenues dry up from these sources it will get worse not better. She has to cut spending not cut into programs that yield profit for thousands of Michigan residents who depend on these parks and hatcheries staying open. Case in point, Michelle and I just spent over 500 dollars in 5 days fishing the NORTHERN PART OF THE STATE. If these boat launches were closed we would have stayed home. How many closed parks will have this effect. We will lose Millions of dollars in revenue. She needs to cut hand out programs and social positions that earn nothing . She needs to cut entire departments at the state level that are better done at the local level. Big government costs too much period. High taxes drive down incentive to save and spend. REMOVE THE SHACKLES I SAY. Kingfisher

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October 25, 2007 - 12:20 pm
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This is in response to Lemay. Nice tale of the truth regarding Hillary Clinton. Socialist to the max.

So how do you democrats like having your choice made for you??? No one on the Michigan Primary except Clinton. No Obama , No Gravel, No kucinich, no one but Hillary. You should be LIVID!!!!!!!

I ask you as someone who shares many of your concerns. If you want the war to end ,want the trade laws fixed, want the borders controled and Illegals sent home, want to see un nessassary foriegn military bases closed and true reductions in federal spending ? Join me and VOTE FOR RON PAUL IN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY. He is the Champion of the Constitution and only man running for president who will put your liberty first. Kingfisher

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October 25, 2007 - 2:28 pm
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Hey Mike King and other anti-DNR funders,
I met personally with Republican Senator Gerry Van Woerkom last Saturday. He made it very clear their Republican party plans were to destroy the DNR funding (and especially the DEQ funding to help their polluters and developers) then bold face lie about it to blame Governor Grandholm. The plan is to then claim they are the saviors in 2008 election to reinstall the anti-DNR and anti-DEQ John Engler policy to further screw the DNR/DEQ and everything our fishery programs depend on. I have coffee every day with the White Lake area Republican politicians at the city, county, and state levels and they confirm what I just told you.

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October 25, 2007 - 3:53 pm
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Blanchard, then Engler, now Grandholm. thats two to one. All had a hand in wiping out the D.N.R. Its sick to see them still play politics when the state is in ruin. But the bottom line is the social programs and hand outs were not cut. Cuts needed to be made but not in the D.N.R. funding. I support the cutting of social programs to fund the D.N.R. and raising license fees as well. I also support keeping the governors hands out of the D.N.R. trust fund. So to say I am a supporter of not funding the D.N.R. is ludicris. This administration has failed from the word go. Failed to create jobs, Failed to keep what industry we still had here and most of all failed to act when anyone could see the way foriegn trade was killing us. Instead she just blames the past Governor. Ask the unemployed Auto workers who they are going to support in 2008. Its Ron Paul. I agree with you Tom on one fact There are corrupt Republicans in Michigan and they are holding hands with the corrupt Democrats. Both sides of the Isle have become just like the Federal government. Look where they are investing their money. Chevolet(in Korea) is one example. The Clintons have as many foriegn investments as the Bush family. WHY?????

This mess here in Michigan over our D.N.R. started with Blanchard back when I was a Democrat. His plea at the time was that we needed to use surplus revenues from the D.N.R. trust fund to balance our budget. The proposal passed and with in months my wife had to buy a fishing license and state park stickers doubled in cost and cuts were made in enforcement. They created a huge surplus and Blanchards crew began what was continued by the following 2 Governors. Taking money from the Trust fund until we put a stop to it last year. Engler made a furthur mess of things and Grandholm just shut the door. Now the D.N.R. is cut off from general funds because there are none. Her poor management of the revenue (spendng it on social programs) has eaten up any extra monies that could help. We must raise license fees and state park fees in order to regain a positive sum of working capital in the D.N.R. trust fund. I dont want the state to have any hand at all in funding the D.N.R. It stood on its own two feet before the state ripped it off. Once a positive cash flow is re established the state can go **** its self and any Governor with it. Remember they took Millions of dollars from this agency running it into a negative cash flow situation. BOTH SIDES .

Im proud of my daughter in law, she stands in the face of this working three jobs to put her self through nursing school. Not one hand out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not one government dollar. That is how we come back from this not by taxing the #### out of the few remaining wealthy investors left in Michigan. This administration needs to get out of our way so we can grow industry and bring this state back to what it was prior to three worthless governors and 20 years of the Clinton Bush team of globalists. You want to see change ?? Vote for RON PAUL in 2008.

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October 25, 2007 - 9:33 pm
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So where does this leave the muskies destined for our waters? We still get Iowa fish?? Will recieving Iowa fish be affected?

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October 25, 2007 - 9:47 pm
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When is our next election and can she do more than these two terms?

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October 25, 2007 - 11:41 pm
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Finlander, Governor Granholm does not run the state fish hatcheries nor does any governor. They let DNR Fishery Chiefs such as Kelly Smith do their job to run the fishery division hatcheries. Kelly Smith has been in contact with governors staff he knows Granholm is trying to help increase funding for the DNR and DEQ, but Granholm's efforts have been continually sabotaged by Republicans. Michigan's DNR and DEQ has never recovered from the corruption of the John Engler administration, just as the Republicans planned.

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October 26, 2007 - 12:06 am
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Michigan has never recovered from Blanchard!! Engler or this twit we have in office now wake up will you? There is no good party. The two party system is the reason we have what we have today Period! Democrats and republicans both serve the same master. Wall street. And investment in other countries where our jobs and revenue has been going since Bush , Clinton, Bush and next Clinton . Engler did nothing worse than the other two morons before and after him. But guess what. We had a D.N.R. when he was in office didnt we??? And now we dont. 6 years after the fact and people still blame the last governor because they cant except the fact that this woman has failed period! Kingfisher

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October 26, 2007 - 10:10 am
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I just got dune talking to a person from the DNR. He told me they already have a list of people that will be layed off if they don't get the funding. And they are talking about privations of two of the Fish Hatchery.

LeMay OUT

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