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December 8, 2008 - 2:15 pm
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As part of the tips page upgrade lets offer a list of MMA member lessons learned. Provide new anglers with an idea of where/how they might make mistakes when first starting off.

Example(s):

– Don't trust the leaders that are available in your local WalMart.
– You need a leader! Braided superline is easily cut by a muskies teeth.

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December 8, 2008 - 3:00 pm
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Don't question Sgt. Schultz. [smilie=bow.gif]

Use heavyweight superbraid (80-100 lb test). The heavy baits you'll be throwing will stress the line tremendously.

Check your line and leader frequently for nicks, especially after a snag or catching a muskie. Frayed/damaged terminal tackle can easily fail. You don't want to watch that expensive lure go sailing off into the sunset because your line snapped, or doom a muskie by losing a lure in its mouth when it thrashes.

Don't question Sgt. Schultz. [smilie=bow.gif]

Keep a log of where you've been and what you've caught and which lure you used. Memories can't be trusted! Sooner than you think, you'll be scratching your head about where you were when you caught that big one.

Don't waste time on Lake Ovid; there are no fish there.

When holding a fish for a picture, get a good grip and HANG ON TIGHTLY! Embarassed

Don't question Sgt. Schultz. [smilie=bow.gif]

Sharpen your hooks, even on brand new lures. New hooks are almost always dull, and sharp hooks can increase your landing percentage dramatically.

Get used to routinely doing figure-8s. The fish can see your lure even if you don't see the fish, especially in murky water.

Learn some new swear words; they'll come in handy. Foreign words are best, because you can use them with other people around.

Cover the water methodically. Don't be arbitrary or random in your casting. When covering open water, learn fan-casting.

Don't question Sgt. Schultz. [smilie=bow.gif]

Resist the temptation to change your lure every five minutes. Give it a chance to work; have confidence in it.

Leave the beer at home. Or better yet, send it to me.

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December 8, 2008 - 3:18 pm
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"hemichemi" said:
Don't question Sgt. Schultz. [smilie=bow.gif]

HAHAHAHAHA! I like that one… next year when you hold up some crankbait and I say "oh yeah, it's a Greis Ojibwa" and you say something to the effect of "whatever schultz…" I'll remind you of rule number one. 😀

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December 8, 2008 - 3:31 pm
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"Will Schultz" said:
– You need a leader! Braided superline is easily cut by a muskies teeth.

Not according to someone @ Gander Mountain Wyoming. Early season last year, he assured my that 35 lb Power Pro is strong enough, and you don't need a leader. 🙄 Good thing I listened to him for only the first time out, then saw a video.

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December 8, 2008 - 5:24 pm
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– ALWAYS PAY ATTENTION!!
– Change out bad/most hooks and split rings
– Tie good knots
– Sharpen hooks
– Dont be stubborn….buy a dawg right away [smilie=2thumbsup.gif]

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December 8, 2008 - 5:35 pm
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Learn the Palomar knot; the best knot for tying terminal tackle to Dyneema superbraids.

And as an addendum to Jason's PAY ATTENTION:
When you get a strike, make an effort RIGHT THEN to remember where you were, how you casted WRT the structure, the action you were using, depth of the lure, speed of retrieve, etc, etc, etc. Try to correlate it with all your other knowledge to make decisions about where the fish are, what they're eating, what enticed the strike… When muskie fishing, you're usually working with scant data, so every piece of info must be made to count.

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December 8, 2008 - 6:26 pm
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-When you launch your boat you want to make sure you have the plug in.
-When you launch alone roll your window down in case your vehicle door closes and then actually locks the door while the vehicle is on the launch and you are unhooking the boat (the dealer says this is impossible and I will never reveal where I buried his body).
-Use 80 lb braid or higher.
-Use good (over 100Lb) rated leaders.
-Keep a log.
-Don’t buy a bunch of baits until you know what you are actually looking for.
-Read some books about muskies and watch some videos from good fishermen. I really like the complete guide to musky hunting by Saric and Heitling.
-Always make a figure 8 or a “O” on your retrieves and if the water is murky then (2) are better than 1.
-If a fish hits at the boat try to set the hook back into the fish.
-Think about where you are setting the hook and where it will go if you miss.
-Get a good pair of polarized sunglasses so that you can see the fish following.
-Get a net made for muskies and learn how to net a fish.
-Use a rod at least 8’ long (longer is better) because your figure 8’s (or “O’s) will be better and easier to perform.
-Read the instruction book on your sonar and learn how to really use it. If you know someone that knows sonar go out with them and learn. You may want to leave your rods in the car for a few hours and just practice using sonar.
-If you can afford it get a GPS unit because in the long run it will invaluable.
-Watch other folks muskie fish and learn the nuances of what they do and why.
-PAY ATTENTION. The minute you look away or get distracted you will miss a fish.
-Anticipate a fish on every cast and be mentally prepared. If you are tired take a break and fish when you are ready to PAY ATTENTION.
-Check your line, leader and rod eyelets for wear and tear. You can look and feel line and leaders for nicks and use a cotton swab on the rod eyelets and if the cotton comes off in the eyelet you should have it replaced.
-Switch your braid on the reels by just pulling it off and reversing it.
-Spool your reels all the way up.
-You are better with 1-2 quality rods and reels vs 4-5 cheap setups.
-Be social and polite to people on the water and talk to them about muskie fishing and MMA.
-Show respect to other people fishing and give them distance. If someone is on “your” spot go somewhere else and come back later.
-Have a plan for when you catch a fish. First thing, talk about what you do when someone hooks into a fish, have the net ready, landing tools and discuss what each person needs to do.
-Have a camera ready before you bring a fish out of the net so you can take some pictures and let the fish go. THINK about how the picture should be framed and make sure it will be good. You may have to turn the boat so the person with the fish doesn’t have the sun in their back but if you want a good picture you need to think about it.
-If you are fishing alone think about your plan and how you would take a picture of a fish. I have marked a spot on my pedestal stand and practiced a few “fake” pictures and know where to stand in my boat so that I am ready.
-Get some good release tools and know how to use them. At a minimum this should include good cutters (knipex), long pliers (11’ or longer), jaw spreader and something like a Lindy glove to protect your hands and fingers. The release tools should be easily accessible and ready to go.
-Buy spare fuses, spare light bulbs for the trailer and carry a small tool kit in the boat.
-Make sure the jack you have for your vehicle would actually work if you got a flat on your boat trailer.
-If you see the DNR be polite and friendly and thank them for helping to protect our fisheries.
-Keep your fishing license and registration handy in case the DNR wants to see it.
-Think about a free boat inspection from the USCG or DNR. This is good from a safety perspective and when the DNR see the inspection sticker they may not pull you over.
-Wear a PFD if you are fishing alone or fishing in cold water. This link points out that most drownings occur on calm inland lakes on sunny days with less than 6” chop. If you have kids in the boat they just simply have to wear a PFD….no exceptions.
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-Think about taking a boating class through the power squadrons of USCG.
-Try to time your retrieve with your partners retrieve so that you are not both making figure 8’s at the boat at the same time.
-Take a kid or friend fishing and get them into the sport.
-Use the internet to scout out new lakes and obtain maps to study before you go.
-Save up some money and go out with a quality musky guide. If you are just starting out you can really cut down on the learning curve by hiring a guide.
-Have a sense of humor and understand that you may not catch a fish, get a follow or anything and that is part of musky fishing.
-Invest in a good rain suit and boots because it is really worth it.

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December 8, 2008 - 6:35 pm
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-Stay positive
-Figure 8 always!
-Have a plan for when you net a fish and be sure your partner is on the same page.
-PAY ATTENTION!

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December 8, 2008 - 7:13 pm
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"edalz" said:

-When you launch alone roll your window down in case your vehicle door closes and then actually locks the door while the vehicle is on the launch and you are unhooking the boat (the dealer says this is impossible and I will never reveal where I buried his body).

This is also a good idea anytime you are on a ramp because if something breaks in the transmission and you end up in the water with the truck it will be easier to get out instead of having to wait for the pressure to equalize.

"edalz" said:

-Don’t buy a bunch of baits until you know what you are actually looking for.

Probably the best advice we could give but… what fun would that make lure swaps? LOL

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December 8, 2008 - 10:24 pm
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Always carry a first-aid kit in the boat.

Always respect the fish when unhooking, even 30 inchers can scar you for life.

Don't get caught in a rut fishing the same spots with the same baits everytime out. Patterns change, we must adapt.

Make sure to take a minute to enjoy just being on the water.

Bring and wear sunscreen… even on overcast days.

Have fun!!!

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December 9, 2008 - 6:45 am
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"Scott Williams" said:

Bring and wear sunscreen… even on overcast days.

Don't forget tho… The 2 repelents for muskies are sunscreen and bug-repelent. I guess it's a good thing I'm part Indonesian. Never have to worry about sunscreen! [smilie=2thumbsup.gif]

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December 9, 2008 - 8:21 am
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"Jim tenHaaf" said:
The 2 repelents for muskies are sunscreen and bug-repelent.

??????

Please elaborate on that thought.

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December 9, 2008 - 8:25 am
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I think he means that you can get that stuff on your lures and tackle, and the muskies can sense it in the water and are repelled.

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December 9, 2008 - 9:00 am
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"hemichemi" said:
I think he means that you can get that stuff on your lures and tackle, and the muskies can sense it in the water and are repelled.

That is where I figured he was heading but wanted to hear it from him.

Here's a little info though…

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December 9, 2008 - 9:15 am
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Yes, that study says the fish may be stimulated to become active because of (an attractive) smell, but might'nt they just as likely move away from an obnoxious odor, as many believe in other angling circles? This study doesn't speak to that.

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December 9, 2008 - 9:51 am
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"Will Schultz" said:
[quote="hemichemi"]I think he means that you can get that stuff on your lures and tackle, and the muskies can sense it in the water and are repelled.

That is where I figured he was heading but wanted to hear it from him.

Here's a little info though…

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Yes, that's exactly what I meant.

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