Tom, Last year I showed you the facts on who started the rape of the D.N.R. trust fund. Its all public record and you know it. Blanchard started it Engler continued it and Grandholm took the largest check from that fund right after she took office. The corruption you speak of runs deep in both parties. One screws the government employees and the other screws the people. The answer is and always has been the middle. Balance, gridlock, not passing un needed laws that hurt this state and this country. Under Engler the people had jobs under Granholm government employees had jobs its that simple. The difference is big government versus big buisness and who do you trust? Business creates jobs and jobs is what this state needs right now. What we do not need is another career politition as Governor. Snider is not an Engler clone. He is fiscal conservative and will not be kind to this over bloated state government. However he has stated that this state needs to improve its state parks and bring more tourism into the state. He will support programs that do this(bring money into this state) And now the final bit of truth. We voted to remove the State from the D.N.R. trust fund. Its over Tom. The State can not touch the Money any more . (All applaude) The D.N.R. is free from the controls of any corrupt party. Remember it was the Grandholm administration who took away the general funding so get your facts straight.

In short the Democrats had 8 years to fix a failing economy and they failed completely. Unemployment is the worst since the Engler and the Reagan years. We have the Clinton and Bush administrations to thank for that. This state will not recover until we fix the trade laws at the federal level. Snider may be able to improve the numbers but he is inheriting a mess and will have an uphill battle. The only hope I see is that States will continue to file 10th amendment documents until this Federal Government backs off its unfunded mandates on all of us. The entire Country is teetering on the brink of total collapse and we are squabbling over state programs that have no bearing on our futures. If you want to blame someone blame Clinton and George Bush SR. One Democrat and one Republican. Both serve the Global elite and they destroyed America. W e now have a Communist Country controlling Capitalism. Welcome back to the old world order. 98% of the people serving the top 2% . Jefferson is screaming in his grave!!!!!!!!!

As for Darkhouse members , they have dug themselves into a hole. They should have excepted the one fish per year tag with no size limit. In the end they will lose the right to spear Muskies and I support that . I tip my hat to the end of Musky spearing. Its about time.

Will is a conservative as am I. Here stand two conservatives right in front of you who support the D.N.R. ,Who support programs to enrich the states fisheries. I dont know a single Conservative who opposes state programs to improve the states fisheries. Are we not the proof???? In fact most of the membership of MMA are conservatives who believe in self empowerment not government control. That is why we are here , self empowered ready to help with our money and our votes. No corruption here . Mike and Michelle

Pure Cyberlunge…..love it.

OK, now I'm just getting mad at you and have completely lost all respect for you. You seem to be unable to process what has been written or completely unwilling to accept your mistake.

This is really simple Tom and yet again you re-stated that MMA supported govt. corruption. Let me remind you that MMA wasn't around for 10 of the 12 Engler years but has been around for all of the Granholm years. By your completely screwed up reaasoning wouldn't it seem that MMA must be a Democratic organization that supported Granholm.

YOU still owe every member of MMA an apology for calling this organization an enemy of the natural resources. You seem to be able to re-state your lies but aren't able to apologize.

Let me help you get it started:
"To all MMA members I'm sorry…"

Mr. Hamilton,

I don't know you, and I don't have any specific knowledge of what may have happened in the past other than that things have been posted by you that have been widely viewed as inflammatory and insulting.

In the future, any such postings by you (or anyone else) will be deleted, and persistent, repeated efforts by you to make such inflammatory posts in the future will ultimately lead to revocation of your privilege to make posts on our Forum. Free speech doesn't have to include insults and baseless accusations.

I've now locked this thread and separated it; eventually I will make it invisible, but we'll keep it around offline to refer to in the future, if necessary.

The purpose of the original Darkhouse thread discussion continues in:
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Tom Carter