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Catch and Release Muskie season
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March 16, 2006 - 12:29 pm
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What would you think about an experimental CIR (catch and immediate release) season for a few waters in Michigan? It would have to be waters with NO natural reproduction that are maintained by stocking. This would be a spring CIR season from 3/15 to the last Saturday in April or May 15.

Thoughts?

Concerns?

Ideas?

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March 16, 2006 - 1:48 pm
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I don't think so. Give the fish a 45-day break for hormones. It might prove an extra burden on law enforcement. Just my opinion.

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March 16, 2006 - 2:18 pm
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I talked to some of the Indiana folks and they don't even hardly fish when the spawn is on. I would be for it.

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March 16, 2006 - 2:31 pm
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I would be for it also. I dont foresee many problems at that time of year on the limited number of lakes.
If problems did occur after the first trial season, it could always be scratched.

Jason

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March 16, 2006 - 2:50 pm
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Larry – I'm interested about your thoughts on why they should have a 45 day break, can you expand on that?

Dan – Why did they tell you they weren't fishing at that time of year?

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March 16, 2006 - 3:32 pm
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How would the Reg read? would it be Pike and muskie, or just muskie?
TF

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March 16, 2006 - 3:46 pm
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"Muskie Medic" said:
How would the Reg read? would it be Pike and muskie, or just muskie?
TF

I don't know, what do you think?

IMO this would depend on the situation, some lakes probably wouldn't be good candidates due to spawning pike.

Realize that this is ONLY in the discussion phase on this forum and NOWHERE else! It's likely that nothing will ever happen beyond our discussion.

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March 16, 2006 - 4:22 pm
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I guess I've always been one to give the fish a chance at a hassle-free spawn if the species is less than prolific. Give the sturgeon and muskies a chance to propagate. Smallmouths have a hard time being successful at it if they are pulled off the nest due to angler catch, according to Gord Pyzer at the In-Fisherman. Even if a lake is thought to be unfavorable to muskie spawning, you might get eggs and sperm together on a nice spring day. Some of the natural WI muskie lakes look pretty barren on the shoreline but there has been enough habitat to get the job done.
Now, largemouths, catfish, panfish are a different story. That's where I'm coming from.

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March 16, 2006 - 6:04 pm
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What's the difference between C & R and C I R? In theory, not much I should think. Perhaps no hand held picture or water release only? Anyway, I personally don't feel compelled to get my boat out of storage that early and deal with the early conditions. It probably would be good practice for ME, however, as I'm not the most patient presentation guy in cold water. Larry's comments seem sensible in my opinion. I don't have my equipment ready to go yet anyway, but I can wait until the ICE OUT ChALLUNGE in Indiana. There doesn't seem to be any plus for the overall fishery in this situation and since I got my cabin fever stroked in Chicago and the banquet I say nay. I'll be gung ho in Indiana next weekend, however….get those hooks sharpened if not already.

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March 16, 2006 - 7:20 pm
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I dont think it would hurt on a couple of the stocked lakes. My opinion. Kingfisher

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March 16, 2006 - 11:59 pm
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I can see the moral concern about spawning fish but there is not a biological concern with the lakes I have in mind. This has been proven in many other states where there is no closed season.

CIR is the term used by the DNR. Mainly it's used to clarify that fish can't be retained in a livewell. This was particularly importatnt in the recently approved CIR bass season so that it excluded weigh-in tournaments.

My thought is that this would create additional angling opportunity in Michigan, something the DNR likes to do. Keeping Michigan anglers and their money at home is another plus in the eyes of the state.

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March 17, 2006 - 9:02 am
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Will, I was in the process of picking a couple of days to fish with someone from the webster lake club and he told me that the days I picked could mean very tuff fishing because historically the fish are in the heat of the spawning act and I may want to re-think. I guess I assumed that most of them were taking a break that week or two.

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March 17, 2006 - 9:12 am
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I'm not so sure what I think about it but my wife says NO! Cry

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March 17, 2006 - 9:30 am
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LOL!! My wife wouldn't like it either. I think it is a great idea since the DNR claims there is VERY little to no natural reproduction in these stocked lakes. Maybe try one or two stocked lakes per region and see how it goes. Of course the brood stock lakes should be off limits.
Tom

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March 17, 2006 - 9:48 am
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"MuskyDan" said:
Will, I was in the process of picking a couple of days to fish with someone from the webster lake club and he told me that the days I picked could mean very tuff fishing because historically the fish are in the heat of the spawning act and I may want to re-think. I guess I assumed that most of them were taking a break that week or two.

That's what I figured, it's can be tough but if you choose the lake wisely fishing should still be good.

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March 17, 2006 - 11:58 pm
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I don't see the harm in a C&R season if the lakes have no natural reproduction and impact on pike is not a concern. Would probably help to deaden some of the opening day pressure, and also may serve get more early-season-only folks (before pike/walleye/trout/salmon season) involved.

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