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Big TC area fish? *Resurrected*
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September 30, 2009 - 12:59 pm
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Spit it out! 18

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"Steve S" said:
Spit it out! 18

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Poppy doesn't get to guess!!

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September 30, 2009 - 1:13 pm
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September 30, 2009 - 2:13 pm
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21 duh – got a real big beer gut after turning legal.

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September 30, 2009 - 2:45 pm
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"Will Schultz" said:
I think you mean Detloff would think there's a WI fish that should be the record…

Yeah I do, thanks.

Bomba- how is it that Dan's 55 was known to be 19??

You know one kinda cool thing about this record is it wipes a speared fish off the books, and is a more legitmate angling accomplishment at least in my opinion.

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"jasonvkop" said:
21 duh – got a real big beer gut after turning legal.

HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! That was funny but she never made it to drinking age.

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September 30, 2009 - 3:56 pm
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Can't we hold a misinformation meeting and tell everone that shes a beautiful St. Mary's River Monster!!!! My heart sunk when I realized what fish it was. Regardless, all the more reason to back more REGS.

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September 30, 2009 - 4:37 pm
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Answer is…

[size=150]17[/size]

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September 30, 2009 - 5:48 pm
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Hmm, same age class as the GB fish from the Indian River eggs. Great survivors given the chance. Can I assume we got the transmitter back so we can have it reprogrammed and put back in action with another fish?

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September 30, 2009 - 9:47 pm
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"Will Schultz" said:
Answer is…

[size=150]17[/size]

Verrry impressive… Not that it matters, and I've said it before but our own DNR held the ultimate GLS broodstock foundation in their hands when they trapped that fish this spring.

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October 1, 2009 - 2:42 am
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"Hamilton Reef" said:
Hmm, same age class as the GB fish from the Indian River eggs. Great survivors given the chance. Can I assume we got the transmitter back so we can have it reprogrammed and put back in action with another fish?

Keep in mind that the GB fish are a mix of Indian River and St Clair. The potential for the St Clair GLS seems to be just as good as anywhere based on the success of GB.

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October 1, 2009 - 12:17 pm
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Let's hope there are a lot of the giant's offspring swimming in those waters as we speak. She got a chance to spawn many times in the 17 years. That's "priceless".

See ya'll at Trippers tonight!

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October 1, 2009 - 1:23 pm
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"Chuck S." said:
Let's hope there are a lot of the giant's offspring swimming in those waters as we speak. She got a chance to spawn many times in the 17 years. That's "priceless".

Well… maybe not as many as it may seem. If she was sexually mature at 6YO you would think that was 11 times but that isn't the case. With larger fish, since so much energy goes into egg production, fish over 48 generally spawn once every two years. Many studies/observations have suported this and it's also the case with the fish in Thornapple. Instead of 11 times my estimate would be more like 6 to 8.

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Of those fish that spawn once every two years, how many eggs is that approx.? Also, how many of those eggs make it to fingerlings? Last, what's your guess on those fingerlings that make it over 48" in a lake like Lake St. Clair?

I'm just trying to get an idea of the approx. number of fish that actually make it to that size with all factors in nature and angling considered.

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"detroithardcore" said:
Of those fish that spawn once every two years, how many eggs is that approx.? Also, how many of those eggs make it to fingerlings? Last, what's your guess on those fingerlings that make it over 48" in a lake like Lake St. Clair?

I'm just trying to get an idea of the approx. number of fish that actually make it to that size with all factors in nature and angling considered.

From a blurb in this year's Muskies Inc. calendar:

If you stock a lake with 1000 muskies, only 6-8 will typically survive to make it to 50"; that's less than 1%.

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"hemichemi" said:
From a blurb in this year's Muskies Inc. calendar:

If you stock a lake with 1000 muskies, only 6-8 will typically survive to make it to 50"; that's less than 1%.

I'd like to know some more stats if anyone knows them:
What percentage of fish are female?
What percentage of males grow over 42"?
What percentage of fish (stocked) will hit 42"?
In a lake like TorchElkSkeg. etc, how many fish are naturally born and what % will reach 42"?

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I know how she survived, she would put that make-up on (black head and pink down the sides) tell all the boy's she was a cheap date. Then when she got bigger, she just kicked everybody's butt!!

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October 1, 2009 - 7:17 pm
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Good questions Jim. I'd also like to know the stats to Jim's questions.

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"Jim tenHaaf" said:
[quote="hemichemi"]From a blurb in this year's Muskies Inc. calendar:

If you stock a lake with 1000 muskies, only 6-8 will typically survive to make it to 50"; that's less than 1%.

I'd like to know some more stats if anyone knows them:
What percentage of fish are female?
What percentage of males grow over 42"?
What percentage of fish (stocked) will hit 42"?
In a lake like TorchElkSkeg. etc, how many fish are naturally born and what % will reach 42"?

Good, tough! questions. I'll hope for more educated respondants than me, but throw some ideas out there first anyway. These answers are not much better than guesses though!

What percentage of fish are female?
At what age, and at what size? At birth- 50%.
At 35"- just a guess but maybe 40% because there will be more year classes of males (older ones) that are starting to slow down growth and are hanging in this length bracket.
At 40"
What percentage of males grow over 42"?
The estimates of % of fish left alive after each additional year of life would be used to back calculate this but I don't have that chart to figure it. My guess is probably like 5% of males that make it to 30" might make it to 42".
What percentage of fish (stocked) will hit 42"?
Mr. Will's got this one convered!
In a lake like TorchElkSkeg. etc, how many fish are naturally born and what % will reach 42"?
All of them are naturally born! Sorry… that's a tough one. I'm guessing the DNR has worked up population estimates out there, don't know em though

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October 2, 2009 - 9:37 am
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I know that "pelagic" or open water fish will typically grow thicker/heavier because of their diet i.e. cisco, whitefish, tulibee. The fact that this 55" fish was only 17 is a pretty amazing growth rate. The GLS/Indian river strain in the right lake environment and "bingo". I believe that Will may have some data on a few of the other male and female fish that have been captured/studied on the Elk/Torch chain.

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