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2009 Michigan Muskie Stocking
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October 15, 2009 - 8:41 am
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"Jim tenHaaf" said:
[quote="Will Schultz"]
Avg. 10", that is one per acre for Margrethe.

Did each of the lakes get about 1 per acre also?

Budd – 2/acre (IA-MUS)
Dianne – 1.5/acre (IA-MUS)
Long – 1.5/acre (MI-MUS)
Margrethe – 1/acre (IA-MUS)
Smallwood – 1.5/acre (IA-MUS)
Campau – .8/acre (IA-MUS)

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October 15, 2009 - 11:20 am
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"jasonvkop" said:
[quote="Will Schultz"]Just got word the extra 110 will go to Campau.

Kid Coulson you owe me a beer!!!

HAHAHA thats hilarious. When is this going to happen and can aynone go to watch/help?

Happening today. As I'm writing this I'm sure a couple are already completed. The process is a very simple one man job.

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October 15, 2009 - 4:53 pm
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Here goes my annual Sad Sally routine…never ceases to amaze me how they tend to kill so many of the little buggers at Wolf Lake. What a crappy year…again!

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October 15, 2009 - 7:21 pm
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"Scrappy" said:
Here goes my annual Sad Sally routine…never ceases to amaze me how they tend to kill so many of the little buggers at Wolf Lake. What a crappy year…again!

Boy, you are RELENTLESS on those DNR people! What about the minks and blue herons? Or the racoons? Or the other bigger muskies? [smilie=bangtard.gif]

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October 15, 2009 - 7:57 pm
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Scrappy, this is better than 0, Zip, Nada, Zilch and a poke in the eye with a sharp stick. Don't be a Gloomy Gus!

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October 15, 2009 - 9:50 pm
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Harvesting the ponds was so much fun last year, but I knew it wasn't going to be a big job this year. I also needed to stop at the D&R Shop for some lures. Maybe next year we can have another harvest outing.

I find the Lake Margarethe stocking interesting as the sleeper lake waiting for the Grayling tourism to grab hold introducing new muskie fishers to the sport.

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October 15, 2009 - 11:24 pm
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Anybody have a contour map of Lake Dianne? Couldn't find one in the DNR site. Thanks

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October 16, 2009 - 9:43 am
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Anybody have a contour map of Lake Dianne? Couldn't find one in the DNR site. Thanks

I'm in the same boat you are Steve. I've tried to find out anything about this lake but there isn't much out there. I do know that for the most part it's shallow with 2 deep basins I believe one gets down to about 50'. Some guy on another forum posted about Diane and said he's caught several smaller fish and heard rumors of a 50" that I'm assuming was from when the lake was stocked with tigers.

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October 18, 2009 - 10:01 am
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Raising muskies can be tricky

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GRAYLING — For reasons tough to fathom, the baby muskellunge that hatched at the state's Wolf Lake fish hatchery this spring wouldn't eat artificial food. They either starved to death or turned cannibal.

"You wouldn't believe what a 3-inch muskie can choke down," said Matthew Hughes, a Department of Natural Resources employee who runs the Wolf Lake facility. "They're like snakes. And they're real cannibals. You'd sometimes find a 3-incher with half of another 3-incher sticking out of its mouth."

Despite their size and power as adults, muskellunge can be tough to rear as juveniles, with results fluctuating wildly over the years. Wolf Lake hatched 475,000 fry of the northern muskellunge subspecies last spring, but only about 360 lived to reach the 10-to-11-inch size at which they are stocked into lakes.

Another 3,500 fish the DNR received from Iowa also made it to that size. But the original shipment had 30,000 fingerlings 2 1/2- to 3-inches long, and most died of a disease that manifested itself a couple of days after they arrived at Wolf Lake.

Hughes said that between the problems of food and disease, the DNR was able to stock only about 3,800 northern muskellunge in inland lakes this year, compared with 40,000 that were turned loose last fall.

"This year, the little muskellunge that we hatched just wouldn't convert to artificial food," Hughes said. "We start them out on live brine shrimp and introduce very small artificial food, almost like dust, but they just wouldn't eat it. They either starved or ate each other. The ones that survived were the cannibals."

The Iowa fish apparently arrived with the disease already in them, he said. "Between the 14-hour ride in a truck and the different water at our hatchery, it was able to spread very quickly and killed most of them," he said.

Muskies spawn in the weeds shortly after the ice melts in water less than 2-feet deep at a water temperature of about 50 degrees. Hughes said the DNR sees little natural spawning in inland lakes, probably because human development has eliminated most of the undisturbed shorelines, vegetation and underwater woody debris they require.

Many inland lakes also contain large numbers of northern pike, which hatch a few weeks before the muskellunge, and muskellunge fry are perfect prey for fingerling pike.

Great Lakes muskellunge, the subspecies most common in Lake St. Clair and in the Great Lakes, are reproducing well naturally. Hughes said he suspects muskies that live in the Great Lakes mostly spawn in rivers and drowned river mouths like Portage, Manistee and Muskegon lakes.

Although muskellunge can reach very large sizes (a state record Great Lakes subspecies of 50 pounds, 8 ounces was caught recently), they grow slowly. In northern states and Canada, it takes about 10 years to reach Michigan's legal minimum catch-and-keep size of 42 inches, at which size the fish are 18-20 pounds.

Some 2,000 of the 2009 northern muskie year class were stocked in Lake Margrethe near Grayling, the fourth strong stock of that lake since 2002. The others went to Lake Diane (570), Smallwood Lake (450), Long Lake (375) and Budd Lake (350).

"The fish we stocked in lakes in 2002 should be getting up around 40 inches," Hughes said, 2 inches below the legal minimum to keep muskellunge. "I think they're doing pretty well, because the muskellunge on a lot of these lakes don't get much fishing pressure.

"Once they reach that 10- to 12-inch size, muskellunge don't have a lot of predators, although pike, big bass and other muskellunge will eat them."

Dennis Mullka trucked 2,000 of the 10-inch muskellunge ("I counted every one by hand," he said) from the Wolf Lake Hatchery near Kalamazoo to Lake Margrethe near Grayling in a DNR fish tanker.

After taking the lake's water temperature to ensure the fish wouldn't suffer thermal shock, he hooked big pipes and hoses to the tanker and let the fish flow into the shallows adjacent to M-72.

The little fish quickly pushed off into deeper water, and within a couple of minutes of being released, all 2,000 had swum out of sight with no apparent casualties.

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October 18, 2009 - 10:28 am
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"Esoxonthefly" said:
[quote="Steve S"]Anybody have a contour map of Lake Dianne? Couldn't find one in the DNR site. Thanks

I'm in the same boat you are Steve. I've tried to find out anything about this lake but there isn't much out there. I do know that for the most part it's shallow with 2 deep basins I believe one gets down to about 50'. Some guy on another forum posted about Diane and said he's caught several smaller fish and heard rumors of a 50" that I'm assuming was from when the lake was stocked with tigers.

I fished Diane about three weeks ago and never saw anything. Diane makes Hudson look like a clear lake and there is maybe 10" of visibility. It was a pretty busy lake and I have not been able to find a paper map. My Humminbird unit showed some basic contours but not a lot of detail. In the Spring I may do some bass fishing before musky season and try to make my own map and use side imaging to find humps and structure.

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October 27, 2009 - 9:56 am
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Hey just curious, which long lake where these stocked in?

Please tell me Grand Traverse County.

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October 27, 2009 - 10:26 am
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"Chris Musselman" said:
Hey just curious, which long lake where these stocked in? Please tell me Grand Traverse County.

Chris, You need to do some serious education with your Traverse County Long Lake Association. Very vocal old fashion senior members were adamant they want no muskies in "their" lake because the muskies are "fish vacuum cleaners that will devour all the fish in Long Lake". The Long Lake Association turned down the 5000 fish that then went to Hamlin Lake. The Hamlin Lake Association was absolutely thrilled to have the 5000 muskies stocked in their lake. Your loss was our gain.

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October 27, 2009 - 10:43 am
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Yup just as I suspected. I remember reading something along the same lines on the Michigan Sportsman forum.

"don't want the muskies to eat all of our walleyes"

Come on, people are so ignorant. I have friends that live on the lake and when I brought up muskies I got nothing but negativity. Fools.

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October 27, 2009 - 2:03 pm
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Yeah it is sad, especially when its "your" lake also that they are denying the fish. I have come to realize though that even when it goes completely against the scientific truth, I think it is better to not force the fish into a place they are not welcome. It sucks, but is probably for the best. The Long Lake that got stocked this year is way down in S. Joe county, by the way

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October 27, 2009 - 8:43 pm
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I wish it was Long lake in Traverse county, very nice lake but very clear water, full of smallies and eyes.

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October 27, 2009 - 10:08 pm
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"Hamilton Reef" said:
The Long Lake Association turned down the 5000 fish that then went to Hamlin Lake.

Oh, well. Their loss! I'd like to see that many muskies go into Hamlin every year for the next 20 years! Well, maybe that would be smart stocking…. How about 1/2 that many every year. I could live with that.

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