"finlander" said:
Anyone make a glide? What wood is best suited for one??? Is a Hoginator a glide bait?? Looking to start tinkering again. Not the best time to test a bait though, hard water season…
Hoginator is a brand… Tim and Mark make cranks, gliders, topwater… I was luck enough to be the firt member of theri 50 inch club using one of their jointed cranks…
I think what you'll find is that there are a lot of people that start out thinking wood that is more dense will work better – maple, oak, etc. The thought is that starting with a wood that you only have to weight in one spot is easier to deal with than a bait that needs to be weighted in three or four spots. However… eventually they find out they will get better action, consistency and durability from cedar.
Check/search Tackle Underground and the baitmakers forum on Muskie First for more info.
"hemichemi" said:
I'm mystified how a bait made from a soft wood like cedar can be more durable than one made from maple or oak. Can you educate me, please?
Durability is not only a function of the hardness of the wood but also how well it handles being in water. Those woods aren't very tolerant of water and cold water, less than 50, can do weird stuff to wood. Most hardwoods expand when soaked in water causing the paint/finish to crack then come off – cedar doesn't expand as much and therfore holds a finish better.
Maple has been used by some companies w/ production baits and they've all had problems keeping a finish on it.
Finlander – Even hardwood is very buoyant. What you'll find if you just put hooks and hardware on a bait will be that it is a gliding topwater. The old Wabull (glider) was made of maple and there was about 1.5 ounces of lead in that bait.
Here's an x-ray of an early Hughes River bait made of cedar. From my understanding the weighting is now done in fewer locations (3-4) compared to this photo.
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Most all of the early tackle manufactures such as Creekchub, Heddon, Shakespeare, Southbend and Plueger used red cedar for their baits. Long lasting and doesn't absorb much water over time. Some of this was due to avalability during the time period.
Some of the early 5 hook musky minnows from the 1900 through 1920 had 5-7 belly weights.
Just a little bit of tackle history for you.
"finlander" said:
Ok, how did you get the x-ray? Did you have it hanging in your fishing coat while you went thru the machine @ GRR?
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That HR isn't one that we did though, Moski sent me that one a couple days ago, I think it was from Tackleunderground.
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