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Reporting Illegally Kept muskies?
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April 26, 2009 - 7:54 pm
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Anyway you can go about reporting people for keeping muskies that aren't legal or not in season.. i was actually randomly searching on a site and found some guy bragging about how he kept a 34 and 38 incher on an inland lake in kent county that he caught last monday.. and kept and ate them.. reading this whole thread on this other site just pisses me off.. some idiot posting about why would the dnr plant them in our lake if they didnt want us to eat them..

Some ignorant people like this is what i hate and why fisheries get destroyed.

FYI this guy all has his full name posted on the site etc.. too even though prob cant do much without catching these people red handed.

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April 26, 2009 - 8:24 pm
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Unless you witnessed it first hand, there's nothing you can do. Chances are he's just trying to stir up trouble and get people all wound up over nothing anyway.

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April 26, 2009 - 8:24 pm
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Call the local DNR. See what they can do.

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April 26, 2009 - 9:17 pm
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Well here is the thread its older, didnt notice the date so they were still in season but the guy mentions keeping fish 34, and 38,

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April 26, 2009 - 9:40 pm
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"swanezy" said:
Well here is the thread its older, didnt notice the date so they were still in season but the guy mentions keeping fish 34, and 38,

The post was made April 24, 2009. Not only was is NOT the season, but the fish were sublegal. I hope the DNR will be able to track him down. It looks like Bo Jingles or whatever gay name he calls himself lives only about 4 miles from Murray. 👿 Maybe our member "county mounty" can do some recon and find this guy in the system…. [smilie=brows.gif]

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April 26, 2009 - 9:50 pm
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Well not just that guy, i saw the post with the fish he caught, but didnt see the size.. but the other guy John Jacob, he posted in the fishing images too with a fish he caught in the grand river that was maybe 20 inches.. and he put something like lot of bones, but sure are a good eat or something stupid like that. Then the thing your talking about jim he posted that he caught them earlier last wk the 35 and 38 inch fish that they said they ate.

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April 26, 2009 - 9:55 pm
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It just pisses me off knowing that we definitely don't have the musky fishing opportunities that states around us like Minn, Wisc have and it really blows seeing people who obviously don't know anything about musky fishing killing them. Sucks that ignorant people feel the need to keep these fish to EAT them of all things

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April 26, 2009 - 10:06 pm
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Tonight as I was putting in a group trolling from a pontoon told me they caught one friday and if I catch one to make sure and keep it cause they are "eating my bass." Can anything be done in this situation?

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April 26, 2009 - 10:18 pm
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the level of ignorance of some people, just wow..

I would hope there is something we could do.. that guy trying to make it sound like they are a junk fish..

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April 30, 2009 - 11:23 am
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this is always the debate, and it will never change. But hopefully the bass guys will not kill the muskie when they catch them.

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April 30, 2009 - 12:08 pm
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i have this number programed in my phone its the michigan dnr poching hotline 1 (800)292-7800. or you could just keep a baseball bat in the boat!(just kidding, but thats how i feel though).i have seen people taking species undersized and/or out of season other than muskellunge and polietly and breifly explained what they were doing wrong and why.90% of the time people just dont know and want to comply with the rules once explained that the rules dnr set are to angler benefit.

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April 30, 2009 - 1:42 pm
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Guys it is also important to remember that half these stories are complete BS made up by frustrated non musky anglers solely for the purpose of starting SHizen- dont get sucked in. Offer info and if they dont take it sleep well knowing you tried.

KK

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April 30, 2009 - 8:46 pm
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cyber, most of these people have posted pics with under sized pics of muskies saying how they ate them, also mentioning how they kept them out of season and ate them just to eat them.. cause the topic was about cooking musky.. and obviously these people are too ignorant to follow rules and regulations.. i dont know about you, but i wouldnt spend my time on forum making up stuff about keeping undersized and illegal musky just cause.

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May 1, 2009 - 10:51 am
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Kevin is right. Don't get over the top on it Swanzey, we know you mean well. However, some of these situations can be truly happening. Whats even more disturbing is think about how many times this has happened and no one posted it anywhere. I've watched it happen, too many times to count. Yes, I've called the DNR rap line with info. That is the best thing you can do. I've found out that most times, the people in question A. don't even know its a muskie, or B. know its a muskie but at 36" it seems so huge to them that they never even question the size limit. This is why I've spent so much time and energy in posting the KTD signs, with the help of other members, the DNR and the Forest Service. What really P's me off, gentlemen, is when I've posted the color copied laminated signs in certain areas where I know this is a problem, then a week later, the signs have been removed. Those are the guys I want to "bump" into. I can't guarantee the situation will be pretty but we must use common sense (yes, it still exists), stay the course and be true to your convictions, but do it in way thats respectful, proactive, and makes a positive impression thats worthy of our cause. This is one thing that took me sometime to learn and it wasn't easy, trust me. A shining example is how Kingfisher handled his recent situation. Thats how its done.

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May 1, 2009 - 11:17 am
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I know it happens and these idiots are out there. Just dont be brought to their level we (as a group) have argued with these guys and every time it is in the public eye, we lose. We get labeled as elitist etc… and it consolidates a whole lot of ignorance toward us. Be patient, state the rules, educate when you can and keep trying. It is working but we are ten years of conservation versus thousands of years of kill and eat, it takes time.
Kevin

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May 1, 2009 - 1:41 pm
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yea, i understand i tried getting some facts across etc.. but when someone has that mentality its pretty tough to change. Especially when u get those guys every now and then that thinks they need to keep everything. I had a few friends like that in college that thought everytime we caught something it had to be kept. At least i was able to change some minds etc..

And like you guys were saying some of the guys don't even know at all how long it takes for a lot of the muskies to develop, or how fragile the fish really are. The only plus side is that most of these guys catch the muskies by luck fishing with worms etc.. we all know that virtually anyone that actively fishes hard for muskies and spends money on the equip etc.. respects the fish as well.

Ive just ignored most of the stuff cause its a tough situation lot of people have said some useful info to inform some of the guys, but in the same respect they have the nerve to say we aren't sportsman cause we only dream of catching trophy fish etc.. all in all a lot of contrasting beliefs, but nothing you can do but help to educate some of the guys.

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May 1, 2009 - 2:14 pm
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Exactly. There is a large percentage of the fishermen who you will have trouble reasoning with, unfortunately. That is just a fact. But as Cyberlunge said, at least you can say that you tried. And, you never know, the one guy that comes across as the most agressively opposed might someday "see the light". Stranger things have happened. It is difficult, but you have to give everyone that same benefit of the doubt, at least at first. I had a idea the other day……while daydreaming……what if I kept every walleye I caught incidentally while muskie fishing, whether I wanted to or not, then when I saw someone boat a muskie and they say "No way I'm keeping it to eat", I'd say, "I'll trade you that 42.5" muskie for two nice big walleyes, as long as I can still revive it. Deal?"

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