"pikerule2" said:
Please forgive this ignorant and selfish question but for those who have caught plenty of both, would you say they are essentially the same in habits, difficulty to catch, etc.? I've had very little experience with the GLS and was hoping that they weren't even tougher than the Northern Strain, but either way I do still like the shift to what would be a more natural part of our waters. Thanks.
Joe, there was an article in Musky Hunter back in 2008 written by Steve Gensen on a lot of the differences that he has observed fishing both Wisconsin and Minnesota waters. There were some differences like the GLS are pack feeders, and there are more intense feeding windows, whereas the barred were more likely to bite at any time throughout the day. Also, the GLS seemed to be more wandering. I still have the mag and can make copies if you are interested in reading it.
"Jim tenHaaf" said:
[quote="pikerule2"]Please forgive this ignorant and selfish question but for those who have caught plenty of both, would you say they are essentially the same in habits, difficulty to catch, etc.? I've had very little experience with the GLS and was hoping that they weren't even tougher than the Northern Strain, but either way I do still like the shift to what would be a more natural part of our waters. Thanks.
Joe, there was an article in Musky Hunter back in 2008 written by Steve Gensen on a lot of the differences that he has observed fishing both Wisconsin and Minnesota waters. There were some differences like the GLS are pack feeders, and there are more intense feeding windows, whereas the barred were more likely to bite at any time throughout the day. Also, the GLS seemed to be more wandering. I still have the mag and can make copies if you are interested in reading it.
I would like to see that article. 
"Steve S" said:
Have they ever crossed a NS & GLS to see what would happen? Bigger gene pool.
I'm not aware of that ever being done on purpose. There are some areas around the state where they're together but that was a mistake. When crossing strains generally the purpose is to get a faster growing fish and/or one that is adaptable to a variety of water. With the goal to rebuild/enhance self sustaining fisheries around the state it's best to select the strain based on their spawning site selection habits. In many of our waters, even where NS have been stocked the GL seem to be a better fit. Once again though, this is the strain that belongs in the LP and most of the UP waters and not the NS.
The planned genetic testing will answer lots of questions. Let's keep our fingers crossed on the money!!
"Steve S" said:
Is this money from the Hugh C. Becker fund. Don't want to sound like a idiot here (whats new) but who is Hugh C. Becker?
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"Jim tenHaaf" said:
Joe, there was an article in Musky Hunter back in 2008 written by Steve Gensen on a lot of the differences that he has observed fishing both Wisconsin and Minnesota waters. There were some differences like the GLS are pack feeders, and there are more intense feeding windows, whereas the barred were more likely to bite at any time throughout the day. Also, the GLS seemed to be more wandering. I still have the mag and can make copies if you are interested in reading it.
Wow lots of questions firing from all over! great to see what a stir the ol spotted fish have caused.
This article was extremely interesting, but the 2 strains being compared were "Leech Lake aka Mississippi River" strain vs. "Wisconsin" strain. Although the Leech/Mississippi typically display the spotted pattern, that does not necessarily mean they have anything in common with GLS as they are completely distinct populations. It will be awesome to see if any tendencies do bear out though, can't wait to start doing research! Joe I wouldn't worry about them being any tougher to catch- the GLS will bow before you just like all fish!!!
"MattG_braith" said:
Wouldnt using Thornapple as a broodstock lake be difficult when collecting eggs from the GLS plants with all of the Northerns already in there?
I'm sure you're right and it will complicate things a bit, but a lot of the current muskies have been pit-tagged, which will help. They might fin-clip the new ones too I wonder?
"Esoxonthefly" said:
[quote="Jim tenHaaf"]Agreed that the Minnesota strain doesnt necessarily mean "spotted", but in his article, he specificall said the spotted, or "Leech Lake" strain vs barred or "Wisconsin" strain.
He does actually call them "GLS" in the arcticle though so he does mislead us there.
Do we KNOW that the GLS is different from those fish?
"LonLB" said:
[quote="Esoxonthefly"][quote="Jim tenHaaf"]Agreed that the Minnesota strain doesnt necessarily mean "spotted", but in his article, he specificall said the spotted, or "Leech Lake" strain vs barred or "Wisconsin" strain.
He does actually call them "GLS" in the arcticle though so he does mislead us there.
Do we KNOW that the GLS is different from those fish?
From what little I know, and I am sure theres a lot more to the logistics, but these current GLS fish from St. Clair, even though the "SAME" as the fish in the antrim chain and other natural populations, still might be "DIFFERENT"…at least enough that they want to make sure that spawning and other things won't get messed up, and then hurt the original population. so if someone else wants to break down the timeline and cost associated with this, or add anything please do!
so in reply, they are the same if they are genetically GLS, but their habits formed by nature might be completely different… therefore mixing them could be bad…but might not be…
"Duke" said:
[quote="MattG_braith"]Wouldnt using Thornapple as a broodstock lake be difficult when collecting eggs from the GLS plants with all of the Northerns already in there?
I'm sure you're right and it will complicate things a bit, but a lot of the current muskies have been pit-tagged, which will help. They might fin-clip the new ones too I wonder?
All of the GL MUS going into the broodstock lakes will be PIT tagged so there is no question.
"LonLB" said:
[quote="Esoxonthefly"][quote="Jim tenHaaf"]Agreed that the Minnesota strain doesnt necessarily mean "spotted", but in his article, he specificall said the spotted, or "Leech Lake" strain vs barred or "Wisconsin" strain.
He does actually call them "GLS" in the arcticle though so he does mislead us there.
Do we KNOW that the GLS is different from those fish?
Yes. Genetic testing leaves no question.
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