fished 10:30-2:30.Water 53.kind of clear,kind of milky.Leaves showing up on lake with all the wind.One other boat out.Cast 2 hrs.trolled 1 hour.Never saw a fish.No rips !!GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR…done with murray until some more muskie weather rolls in….give me a dark,dreary,rainy,snowy day……..Can`t beat 60 degrees for november though…..better than a stick in the eye…..stop complaining Dave…