4 stroke or 2??

finlander · Post by **finlander** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:20 pm

Looking for a boat before next spring. Want a new motor. Boat can be used. What does the 4 strokes offer that the 2's can't??? Probably going to be 25 to 30 hp. Thanks.

Charlie Williams · Post by **Charlie Williams** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 11:55 pm

For one thing if you want a brand new 2 stroke in that hp range you better hurry. I have only followed mercury but I'm sure the other makes too will not be building carburated 2-strokes in 2006. Mercury makes an EFI 4-stroke 25 hp and 30hp. I own 3 motors. 125 2stroke, 15 4 -stroke and a 25 2-stroke. My favorite is the 25 2-stroke. Yes it smokes a little. However it has never let me down. The 15 4-stroke weighs the same as the 25 2-stroke. So weight is a factor. The 15 needs more maintenance. Oil, changes. valve adjustments etc. The carburated 15 is the most cold blooded of the 3 motors. I am glad it is an electric start! However when it warms up it is sweet. It is quiet, smooth idling and no smoke! It purrs when pulling crawler harness' for walleyes! 4-Strokes are better on fuel. I can troll St Clair a full day, 1/2 throttle.(12 hours) on about 12 gallons of fuel pushing an 18 ft boat 5 mph in a heavy chop. But that includes out and back with the 125hp. (gas hog) I bought the two motors for less that I could get a 115 4-stroke. The new EFI 25 or 30 4- stroke looks good. Turn key starts, no smoke and good fuel economy! It weighs about 60 pounds more that my 25 2-stroke though. My advice would be to go with an EFI 4 stroke. Hope this helps

finlander · Post by **finlander** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:54 am

Looking at a Yamaha. I can get them locally. Do all 4 strokes offer exhaust below the water, no smoke. Smoke bothers wife and I big time. The work boat at the Ontario lodge had a 30 Yamaha 4 stroke that was maybe a year old and boy it was quiet. Yamaha offers 4 models in their 4-stroke category. Thanks.

Slimeball · Post by **Slimeball** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:25 pm

finlander,
I have a Yammy 60 4stroke, very fuel efficient,extremely quiet no smoke, starts first turn from May through November, just change oil about every 100 hrs. and that takes me about 10 minutes (very maintenance friendly)
Not to bash Merc but my longtime friends bought a lodge on the Upper French River a few years back, they run 25 2cyl and 30 4 stroke Mercs on their 14 camp boats, they have had nothing but problems with them and not from hitting granite.
Are you going tiller or counsole? Yamaha's 25 4str. is only 37 lbs. heavier than their 25 2 cyl. And their tiller handle configuration is rumered to be the best in the industry. I dont believe Yamaha makes a 30 anymore?
good luck.

Jason

finlander · Post by **finlander** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:45 pm

Want to go tiller. Going to the dealer Monday to get prices and literature. I was there a month ago but don't remember prices. Old-er age creepin' in...

Hamilton Reef · Post by **Hamilton Reef** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 5:36 pm

finlander,
If you are looking for a complete muskie rig ready to go there are two Tuffy Esox Mag boats with 5-foot live wells sitting idle on trailers up at Montague. One has a 50HP 4-stroke and the other has 60HP 4-stroke, both are tillers. The 60HP has only had one tank of gas through it. Contact me or Kingfisher for details.

finlander · Post by **finlander** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:57 pm

Are they at a dealers???? What is the length on them?

finlander · Post by **finlander** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:04 pm

Just looked at the site and they look nice but unless they are a steal, more boat than I am looking for.

Kingfisher · Post by **Kingfisher** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:52 pm

Hi Finlander, 17 foot brand new 60 Suzuki 4 stroke ,one tank of gas thru it. It is a steal!! hes talking around 12 grand . Its never been fished!! It was an insurance deal . If you would like to see this great boat give me a call . We can run up to Montague and you can look it over. He just might sell it for a song . Galvanized roller trailor . Trust me you wont find a better buy anywhere if you want a great tiller boat. Kingfisher

Hamilton Reef · Post by **Hamilton Reef** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:01 pm

Kingfisher is right. I could and would have taken it a year ago, but........darn still need money.

finlander · Post by **finlander** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:43 pm

Still out of reach for me. New 06 Yammies are due in soon at Sportfisherman's. They're asking $3695 for just those 25 hp 4-strokes. I know the motor will be new. The boat might have to be used. I just want it by next season.

muskyguy · Post by **muskyguy** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:20 pm

Hello,

I am not sure about your posting rules here, but you may be interested in a motor I have for sale. I purchased it on 04-18-00. The motor has a 98 manufacture tag. It was sold to me as a 99. I used it for a year and a half or so. It has been run a few times since and it runs great. Take the cowling off and it looks new. The exterior has a couple of scratches, but hey, don't we all! The manual is a little beat up but not really bad. I did drag it around quite a bit in 2001 on the PMTT trail, but that was the last I used it. The motor has a short shaft. I am selling for $1000.00. If you are interested e-mail me at bigfish@bigwormfishing.com. The motor is here in Escanaba and would have to be picked up. If I was in the wrong with the posting regulations, no hard feelings from me if you delete! Have a great day!

GREG

Michigan Muskie Alliance

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